Costa Rica

Costa Rica


Costa Rica, besides being known for its beaches, volcanoes, and wellness, could be a great location for your next corporate meeting or retreat. Hear about the best time to visit Costa Rica with Federico Gurdián, General Manager of Casa Chameleon Hotels, and learn how to take advantage of group-friendly outdoor activities with Chakiris Menafacio. Meanwhile, our hosts go deep into their top ten things to do in perhaps the most relaxing country in Central America, from hiking in the excitement-filled mountains, achieving temporary flight in the zip line, to immersing in the Costa Rican culture first-hand at local restaurants.

Andy McNeill and Todd Bludworth are travel and hospitality entrepreneurs and owners of the global meetings organization, American Meetings, Inc. From sourcing venues in Costa Rica, to corporate event management around the world, their team selects corporate event venues and meeting planners for a wide array of enterprise business clients, providing ideas for convention themes and strategies for running global meetings and events. Learn more at www.mtgshealth.wpengine.com.

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Costa Rica

Adventurous General Manager Federico Gurdián Shares Guest Experiences In Paradise And Celebrate The Pura Vida Lifestyle With Outdoor Enthusiast Chakiris Menafacio

Ticos and Ticas, the casual name for Costa Ricans, have the longevity mindset Pura Vida meaning pure life and they live it to the fullest. With volcanoes, rainforests and beaches, there’s no shortage of inspiring activity. Have an adventure on horseback, zip line, raft, rock climb or relax on a catamaran and sip on coffee or craft brew. We will be interviewing the General Manager of Casa Chameleon Hotel, Federico Gurdian. This villa hotel has been described as the gates of heaven. Get ready to put together a list of fun, outdoor activities with Chak Menafacio. Live out the simple life on this episode of Destination Everywhere, Costa Rica.

We’re bringing you to one of our favorite places in the Western Hemisphere, Costa Rica. We have been there lots of times. It is known for the Pura Vida lifestyle, meaning pure life. There’s so much to do. We’ve taken family trips down there. We’ve taken clients down there for fantastic incentive trips. We’ve got lots of great ideas for you. Todd, tell me about your experience there and what you’re looking forward to sharing with our audience. We ended up going down. We flew into San Jose. We took SANSA Airlines over to Quepos. We stayed at Manuel Antonio and that was my first trip. We spent quite a bit of time in San Jose. It was absolutely amazing. At the time, it was relatively untouched. It was great for a US traveler because I could get by with my very little Spanish. Most people spoke English that we dealt with, which was great. It was relatively inexpensive. I know there are a lot of resorts there now but it was an amazing trip. I’ve gone since then now that I’ve become a little more settled in my lifestyle and I can check out some of the nicer things. Some of the resorts there are second to none, gorgeous. The currency is the colón. It’s easy to get around. Everyone speaks English even though Spanish is the major language. Because of that, it’s easy to travel. The wild life that they have in Costa Rica, you can do the beaches but then you’re not very far. You’re then just up in the volcanoes and it’s some of the greenest and plushest tropical forest you’ve ever seen. The zip lining and the eco-adventure activities that you can do in Costa Rica are limitless. What’s great is they have the local guys, they call them Ticos. You can always find somebody to take you out on one of these excursions and do something. They are fearless fellows and ladies, everything from horseback riding to zip lining to rafting and rock climbing. You could always find these guides that will knock your socks off. They’ve all impressed me tremendously. It is a tropical climate and it has the Caribbean side and the Pacific side. I’ve been there in October when I was younger and I didn’t know October is the wettest season. You need to know the seasons when you go down to anywhere in Central America but Panama, with its rainforest in particular, it can be really wet. The driest months tend to be around December to March. Take that into account when you’re planning your trips unless you like lots and lots of rain. For those of you who might be considering taking a client down there or taking team members down there from your company, they have a new national conference, a convention center, which opened up in 2018. It’s 5 miles from the international airport. It is focused on promoting business and tourism in that type of climate where you can do outdoor activities. It’s beautiful. There’s a great lift coming from the East Coast or the West Coast. It’s right there in the middle. It’s easy to get to. It takes us less time to get to Costa Rica from South Florida than it does to LA or even Colorado. It’s such a quick trip. When you fly from Miami, you fly straight over Cuba, which is always neat to see. That’s pretty cool.

We are joined by our next guest from Guanacaste in Costa Rica. He is an outdoor and fitness enthusiast and he’s the CEO and Founder of Chakfitness. We’d like to welcome Chak Menafacio. How are you? Thank you for having me on the show. How did you get to where you are? What is it about Costa Rica that draws you in and draws you back? I am Costa Rican even though I wasn’t born here. I was born in Switzerland in Geneva. I lived most of my life here in Costa Rica. Most of my family are from here. I lived abroad for twenty years and I came back. I came back a couple of years ago because I missed this beautiful paradise. Starting with beaches, we have so much variety of fauna and flora and adventures. Anything that you want to do, we have it. We call it the New Zealand of Central America because we have so much stuff to do here. It’s a beautiful paradise. I came back and it reminded me of the beauty of that we have here, the Pura Vida lifestyle which is more relaxed, more calm, taking things one day at a time, not rushing, not going crazy with work and so forth. It’s a beautiful life here, very calm, outdoor adventures, and peaceful. Let’s define the Pura Vida lifestyle for our readers who may not know. You talked about a relaxed lifestyle. It’s also about health and wellness as well. [bctt tweet=”There’s no better place in Central America to get great coffee than Costa Rica.” username=””] Everybody here is very conscious about not just the environment but also what we eat. Everything is natural or organic. Almost everything is fresh from the moment you go to the farmer’s market to the little market on the next door, which they sell fruits and vegetables, everything is fresh. We have a very good lifestyle here, natural and everything. The main courses and the main plates here are based on vegetables, rice and beans. It’s a good lifestyle. It’s healthy. How do you pair up? How do you find the tourist consumer to provide your services to? It’s simple and easy because specifically where I am, it’s a very small town. It’s called Las Catalinas. It’s in Playa Danta, which is in Guanacaste. It’s a small beach but it provides all sorts of things. My experience here, which has been for the past year or two that I’ve been coming here is that everyone that comes here comes specifically with that in mind, adventure, doing trails. We have a huge mountain bike trail that was done by a world champion from Europe. We have paddleboard competitions. There are all sorts of tournaments and competitions for triathletes. It’s really big. I had the opportunity to establish myself here coming from the United States with all my experience in fitness and outdoor activities. It was a perfect fit. Most of the tourism here is geared towards that, adventure, outdoors, waterfalls, jumping, spelunking. I took my daughter to do one of the longest zip lining. They call it the Superman because it’s about 1,800 meters long. Where was that? This is in Diamante. I believe it’s one of the third ones and the largest in the world. You zip line from one tip of the mountain all the way to the other tip. It takes forever. You feel like you’re actually flying. It’s amazing. My daughter was static. She couldn’t even believe it. These are the things that as you’re zip lining, you’re overlooking the ocean. You’re on the mountain and you’re overlooking the ocean. Those are the things that you have to remind yourself like, “I live here. I’m experiencing this.” I would recommend anybody that is looking for a thrill or for an adventure. Even if they’re not going to zip line, you can still see the lookouts. It’s an amazing sight when you see a whole beach from the tip of the mountain and it’s right there. There are few places that I can remember that I’ve seen that. I’ve seen that in Hawaii, maybe in some other places in the United States but there are few ones that I’ve experienced, but here we have it everywhere. Let’s talk a little bit about your approach to fitness and how you work with individuals and groups. I would love to know how you do groups because that’s exciting from a fitness perspective. How do you do that? How do you blend in the Costa Rican lifestyle into your philosophy around health and wellness? Here in the programs that I’m implementing in the Las Catalinas in this area, it’s very simple and easy because everybody that is coming here, the tourists, residents, locals, everyone has already that mindset. They’re coming to exercise, hike, and do all different things. Our gym is an outdoor facility. We also have a small palapa where it’s covered but we can do group classes. A lot of the people here that come, they pay by day or they paid for the week. We have all sorts of memberships that they can do. It’s simple. Everyone is relaxed because the moment they come to Costa Rica, it’s almost like it’s injected in your system. You have to. Coming back for me after twenty years of living in the States, I had to remember that lifestyle. It’s almost like it’s forced because everybody’s relaxed, laid back and then you have to like, “I’m in Costa Rica now. I have to sit back, relax, not stress out, and not worry about things.” People take their time and it’s part of the lifestyle. That’s why everybody tells you, “Pura Vida.” That means relax. You hear it all the time when you’re going around town. Especially when you’re getting stressed out or something is not going your way. People just turn around and tells you, “Pura Vida.” You’re like, “Yeah.” Costa Rica has so much. You’ve got the mountains, beaches, volcanoes, rainforests. What part would you recommend to our readers where they want to go? Do you have a favorite spot? You’re in Guanacaste and that is a very special spot. When you take a vacation in the country, where do you go? It’s hard to narrow one because there are so many. I love going to waterfalls. That’s one of my favorite, and jumping from waterfalls. Do you have a favorite waterfall? There’s a waterfall in Rincon de la Vieja. It’s a volcano. It’s a beautiful site. It’s almost like a tunnel when you’re coming down, you have to go down around this huge hole like a cenote but it’s wider. It ends up in this beautiful, closed mountain and the waterfall is right there. You can actually go behind the waterfall. You can jump into the natural pool. It’s crystal clear. It’s amazing. It’s such an experience. We take it for granted sometimes because I’ve done it so many times. I forget that most people don’t have that at home. They don’t have it right next door.

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Costa Rica: Costa Ricans tend to focus more on physical and mental health than money.

What is a typical Costa Rican meal? Do you have a favorite spot that you like to go to close to where you are? Not fancy dining, just a space with good food and good atmosphere. There are several ones and one of my favorites, the typical Costa Rican meal is rice and beans. We call it Gallo Pinto. It’s like rice and beans, a little bit moist and a little bit of sauce. They put peccadillo, which is potatoes and a little bit of meat. You put eggs and everything. You have like a huge car bomb. In Costa Rica, that’s what they eat. It’s a heavy breakfast. One of my best favorite places to go is called Gracia. It’s in Mar Vista. A friend of mine is an amazing chef. The view there, you sit and you have an infinity pool. You get to see the whole ocean from there while you’re dining or having lunch. It’s really good. These are good friends of mine also. Besides the fact that they’re friends, the food is amazing. You can have a drink, you name it. It’s a good restaurant. You were born in Geneva. You lived in the United States. You lived in Costa Rica. You’re a world traveler. We ask all of our local connoisseurs our rapid-fire questions. We’d like to ask you them now, if that’s okay. You can give some tips to our readers. The first one is, have you ever completed anything on your personal bucket list? If so, what was it? I did. In 2020, I went to Chile. I went to El Calafate in Argentina. I crossed the border in about four hours to Chile to Torres del Paine, which is a huge national park there. There’s an eco-camp. It’s a very famous eco-camp. You experience everything. We did horseback riding, mountain biking. We went to the glaciers. We kayaked in the glaciers. It was a nice experience. I’m an adventure-seeker so I love this type of adventure. We also went to Perito Moreno, which is a huge glacier in Argentina. We walked on the glacier. That was one of my bucket lists. If you could live anywhere in the world for a year, where would it be? Costa Rica. That’s an easy one. When you’re packing for a trip, what is something you pack that may surprise our readers? This is why all my friends bug me. I pack a tube band to do exercise so I can put it anywhere in the hotel room or anything. I pack my light gear to work out after a day hiking or whatever, I do a little light work in the hotel. Not all hotels in the world have gyms. I always have to do my workout when I go traveling. Our last rapid-fire question, what is your most memorable experience in Costa Rica? There are so many but I’m going to say learning how to surf when I was fifteen years old, being on my own and sleeping in the sleeping bag on the sand on the beach in Tamarindo. That’s where I started learning how to surf. That was the first place I tried surfing as well. It’s very easy. It’s good for somebody that’s learning. It has good waves. I met Tom Curren at the time. He was a world champion surfing there. I didn’t even know who he was. He told me he was a surfer and I was like, “Great, let’s go surfing.” Later in life, I found out he was Tom Curren, which was huge. That’s a great example of Pura Vida. You just go with it. If our readers want to follow you on social media, how can they track you to know what you’re up to? [bctt tweet=”As a natural paradise itself, Costa Rica has been dubbed as the New Zealand of Central America.” username=””] They can look me up on Instagram. We have an Instagram account which is @Core_Chakfitness. Core is our gym here in Las Catalinas, Core Gym or Core by Chakfitness. Follow us there and check it out. Thank you so much, Chak. We appreciate you taking the time and sharing Costa Rica with us. We wish you all the best. Safe travels. Come by and visit. We’ll see you soon. That’s what I need right about now. Thanks, Chak.

Todd, are you ready to do our top ten bucket list ideas for Costa Rica? I am but this was hard to choose because the list could have gone on but we will get as many as we can in. Our first one and it’s amazing. We’ve been several times visiting the most active volcano in Costa Rica. It is Arenal. It’s been the most active volcano for many years. The last time it had a lava flow was in 2010. It’s sleeping. They say it can erupt at any time. There are many outdoor activities around there. There are some fantastic hotels like The Springs Costa Rica. There’s horseback riding, whitewater rafting, hiking, zip lining that we’re going to talk about. There’s so much to do. La Fortuna had some great restaurants, which is right at the base of the mountain in the town there. I would say about two and a half hours from San Jose. It probably depends. We did take an incentive group there once and in a bus, and it was nerve wracking but if you have a smaller vehicle. It’s two and a half hours unless the roads have improved since the last time I was there, which they always seem to be doing. It’s not that long. Todd, what do you have? One of ours and you can pass it if you’re going out to the volcano. It’s La Paz Waterfall Gardens Nature Park & The Peace Lodge. It’s got five amazing waterfalls. It’s the largest animal sanctuary in Costa Rica. It’s one of the most popular nature tours. We stayed on that property and the rooms were amazing. There weren’t that many rooms. At the time, there were thirteen maybe. We took our kids and they have tons of hummingbirds. Our kids were holding up these little hummingbird cups and they would just come right up to you. They had an exhibit with frogs. It’s pitch-black in there. You’d go in. You’re seeing all these different types of frogs that are native to Costa Rica, birds, frogs and butterflies. It was something. It’s great for adults but the kids, ours were 4, 5, maybe even younger, they absolutely loved it. It’s a beautiful location but straight up to a national park. There are lots of hiking as well. My next one is immerse yourselves in one of the greatest exports that Costa Rica has, which is coffee. If you read the blog, you know I’m a coffee aficionado. I love it. There’s no better place in Central America to get great coffee. One of the things you can do is experience the coffee culture by going to the El Toledo Coffee Tours. It’s an organic coffee farm. It’s a family-owned farm. It focuses on growing with organic sustainability in mind and only using the natural resources of the land. Their philosophy is focusing on health than money. A great message as well, a beautiful location and a lot of fun to see how great Costa Rican coffee is made. Anywhere where there’s great volcanic soil can produce some strong and wonderful coffee.

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Costa Rica: Nicoya is home to more than 900 people who live over the age of 90, and they credit their longevity to the calcium-rich waters around the town.

Don’t ask for a Starbucks in Costa Rica. You might offend somebody. This next one is cool. It’s spend a night in an exclusive, one-of-a-kind suite at the 727 Fuselage Home. It’s a vintage 1965 Boeing 727 aircraft that’s been refurbished and placed in the jungle canopy. It offers a two-bedroom suite and it totally immerses you in nature. It’s a really different experience. You could sit on the terrace overlooking the trees. Some of the animals you might see while you’re there like sloths or monkeys. Costa Rica has so many animals and different types of species. You’re probably going to be amazed with some of the wildlife that you see if you stay there. The next thing I’m going to talk about is health and wellness tourism. In Costa Rica itself, there’s so much of it but there’s the pure life, Pura Vida which is a living concept that is in Costa Rica. The Costa Rican lifestyle is all about improving mental and physical health. Therefore, it’s very relaxing and there are a lot of great beneficial activities around that. There are forest baths where you can breathe in fresh forest air and barefoot earthing, which is barefoot walks and body wraps made in volcanic mud, coffee and chocolate to moisturize the skin. Costa Rica also has one of the blue zones. If you recall, a blue zone is an area where the longest, healthiest living humans live. That is in Nicoya and they’ve had over 900 people live over the age of 90, they think mainly because of the calcium-rich waters that are around the town. Definitely take that out and include that in your plan as you’re planning your trip. I have a cousin who went to an all-girls surf camp in Costa Rica. It was a whole wellness program and she had the best time. They learned to surf and then they did yoga and meditation. At the time, they had closed it, which can be very comforting at some level for girls who want to travel but they want to stay together. They had the most amazing time. They said the surf instructors were amazing, the meditation and then the scenery and wildlife. If you want to get some more traditional culture, almost Western-inspired, European-inspired, there’s an amazing theater that is in San Jose and it’s modeled after the Paris Opera House. It has breathtaking interiors. The theater’s main ceiling was named one of the top great ceilings around the world. If frescoes, paintings and architecture are your thing, definitely go by the National Theatre in San Jose. Now we’re going to go to the Pacific side and going deep sea fishing off Manuel Antonio. Because there’s no major fishing industry off the coast of Costa Rica, the fishing and the deep sea fishing is amazing. When I was there in my twenties, I was lucky enough to jump on a boat. You can walk straight up to the docks and jump on a boat for the day. I went out there and I caught a black marlin the size of a cow. They pulled it up to the side of the boat. We let it go. For a few minutes there, we were able to touch and experience it in its natural habitat. It was definitely a bucket list item for me. One of those things that I will never forget, it was absolutely incredible. Deep sea fishing, you can catch live tuna and they cut it on the boat for you. You can eat it and you can still feel it moving around in your mouth. It’s pretty incredible. The next one is what I should have been doing instead of surfing. There’s a great, little, hidden sanctuary beach called Playa Quesera. It is located also in the Nicoya Peninsula and as part of the Curu Wildlife Refuge. It’s an amazing, gorgeous spot. It’s picturesque. When you think of the beach, it has crystal blue waters. You can see the bottom when you’re in the ocean. You could see the ocean floor. You can rent kayaks, snorkels and enjoy a serene, secluded spot. It’s gorgeous. Finally, we have something that we did with clients and we brought them down to Costa Rica. We took them to the Limon Carnival. It’s a Caribbean annual carnival, usually in October. It spans over a week and they have famous chefs, dishes, singing, dancing, and just a lot of fun. If you want to experience a traditional Caribbean carnival, this one is for you. It’s a lot of fun and something you can do with the entire family. I want to add one more, Andy, if we could. When I talk about Costa Rica, every once in a while zip lining comes up especially if you’re talking about eco adventures. This is one we discovered when we were taking an incentive group there, and then we went back as leisure travelers. It’s the Sky Adventures Arenal Park. I’m typically not a very nervous person but this one had my knees shaking. You take a tram up and then these guides are zipping down then someone’s there to meet you but these are the longest, highest zip lines. I know there are probably longer ones and higher ones that I had ever seen. I remember when we took the incentive group to these zip lines, someone from the group had to go first and I was working. I was the one that had to go first. Every time I was petrified. You’re going so fast. It’s absolutely amazing if you can keep your eyes open, the views are spectacular. I definitely recommend it. The same group also does kayaking tours, they rent bikes and things like that. The zip lining is a recommended adventure. There are some great bucket list ideas as you’re planning your next trip and destination to Costa Rica.

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With this edition in Costa Rica, we’ve got our next guest with a very special property. I’d like to welcome Federico Gurdian. He is the General Manager of the Casa Chameleon property in Las Catalinas. Welcome. How are you, Federico? Thank you. I’m doing great. I’m excited to be part of this show and looking forward to letting you know all about the property and giving you some insiders about Costa Rica too. What a beautiful property. If you have not seen this property, get online and see it. It has views like I’ve never seen, just absolutely stunning. [bctt tweet=”Most locals take Costa Rica’s beauty for granted, not realizing that most of its gems cannot be found anywhere else.” username=””] We should mention that there are two properties in Costa Rica, the Casa Chameleon properties include not only the one at Las Catalinas but also Mal Pais. They’re both in Guanacaste, right? Is Mal Pais a little further south? Catalinas is in Guanacaste and Mal Pais is located in the Province of Puntarenas. We are on the same peninsula. Let’s talk about this property because it’s relatively new and it has 21 villas with their own private plunge pools. That’s just something that everyone is going to want to do. I bet they’re extremely popular. They’re salt water as well. Tell us a little bit about those and the guest experience. The Las Catalinas properties are a very unique property in Costa Rica. You won’t find many of them like this since we’re perched in the hill but so close to the ocean. That’s not something people get very often. We decided to take advantage of that and build these beautiful villas that offered private plunge pools. All of them have astonishing ocean views. An added fact is that half of them have sunset views. You can enjoy year-round beautiful sunsets from the privacy of your terrace in your plunge pool with your couple, which makes it a perfect setting for a romantic escape or an anniversary celebration. You might not get them out of the villa. It’s actually one of the biggest challenges we have. The town doesn’t allow cars. What can they expect? Where would a guest fly into? How are they going to get to the property from the airport? My recommendation is to definitely land in the Liberia Airport. There are two international airports in Costa Rica, the San Jose one and the Liberia one. You have to land in Liberia because if not, it’s a long drive from San Jose. My recommendation is to stay in Liberia. We will then pick you up in our hotel car with our bilingual driver that knows a lot about the area. It’s a short drive. It’s just 45 minutes to the property, a very scenic drive. Once you get to the hotel, you won’t need a car for much. If you do need to go somewhere else, we have the hotel car available that can drive you to the location that you desire. Tell us about some of these unique experiences. I understand there’s a hanging bridge that goes across a volcano. I hope the volcano is not active. No. There are several volcanoes here in Costa Rica near the hotel, around an hour away is a volcano. It’s still active but the explosion it makes are vapor explosions, nothing like magma or anything. It’s surrounded by lush tropical rainforest. There you can find beautiful ranges, thermal waters, mud baths. How far is that from the hotel? That’s an hour and fifteen minutes away from the hotel. A quick drive and a great day excursion from the hotel.

It’s a perfect half-day trip that you can take and enjoy. There’s some beautiful, very traditional Costa Rican restaurants that you can stop by, have lunch and get that cultural connection that our guests are so much seeking for. That’s something that I’ve found in our guests. They love to get to know the Costa Rican culture. It’s something that we have to portray here at the hotel. They get to experience it firsthand when they go visit these locations. Federico, are you finding that more guests that come to your property, are they looking for ecotourism? Are they looking to get outside? Are they looking for activities on the water whether it’s surfing, fishing, things like that? Whatever they’re looking for, does the hotel have access to set all of those up for your guests? Yes. We have total flexibility. Since we are a small property, our main goal is to cater to all and every need that our guests have. For example, it’s funny because since we’re an adults-only property, we get two segments of guests, the very young ones that are on their honeymoon, that are very active and seeking for adventure. We then have the older adults that are already with big kids and they’re coming more for the romanticism, anniversary celebrations, and those type of stuff. We cater to those two things. If you want to just lounge by the hotel and enjoy the day beds around the pool, we will give you a beautiful service. If you want to do hikes and things, you can do it without having to leave the property because the town of Las Catalinas is located on a very big property. It’s over 600 hectares. It’s full of mountain biking trails, hiking trails all surrounding the hotel. You don’t have to go anywhere. If you’re looking for hikes or a short adventure, we have mountain bikes here at the hotel. One of my hobbies is mountain biking. Once a week, we will take guests out mountain biking with me. That’s a good perk to your job. You get paid to go mountain biking. How awesome is that? Another thing you mentioned to us was this coffee tour. I’m a huge Costa Rican coffee fan as some of the best coffee in the world because of the volcanic organic matter there that makes it special. Tell us about this tour. Where do you take everybody? There’s a coffee tour. It’s around an hour and a half away in an area that is a little bit higher than us because coffee needs a certain height to be better. One of our private guides will take you there. You will be able to walk through the coffee plantation. They’ll take you through the whole process of how coffee is made. By the end of the tour, you’ll be enjoying a cup of warm coffee from that farm with some traditional Costa Rican pastries. It’s a learning experience. If you wish, you can buy some of their coffee to take back home or enjoy it there for yourself. It’s something beautiful, not very away from the hotel. For coffee lovers, that’s something I found unique. As a local, what is your favorite restaurant? Where do you like to get food? I’m a huge Italian food lover. Near the hotel, there is an Italian restaurant called La Forketta run by this nice Italian family that has been living for a long time in Costa Rica. They absolutely have the best ravioli with sea bass. It’s always fresh, homemade, and delicious. The pizza is amazing. You then have the ocean here if you like surfing. I love surfing. Do you have good waves right there? Thirty minutes away from the hotel, there is an area called Playa Grande and Tamarindo, which is great for surfing and learn how to surf. I live very close to that area. I try to surf at least 2 or 3 times a week. It keeps my mental health. It’s beautiful. If I’m not doing that in my time off, I am mountain biking the trails or spending time with the family. I love spending time with my family and Costa Rica is a place that makes that very easy because there are a lot of places that you can go without having to drive far away. We like to ask all of our guests our rapid-fire questions and what they are because our readers want to hear from world travelers like you, people who are in the industry and what it’s like. The first one is have you personally ever completed anything on your bucket list? Yes. I had the chance to visit Iceland and it was huge on my bucket list. I was there for two weeks. What was the most amazing thing there? Driving around Iceland. The island was amazing. Pointing out one single thing is so difficult because that place is filled with nature. We are huge nature lovers. We were driving like crazy around the island. We didn’t even stay very long in any hotel. We were on the road all the time, seeing all of these places, the scenery is mind-blowing. [bctt tweet=”Costa Rica doesn’t require tourists to drive a long way just to find a nice place to visit.” username=””] Going is a bucket list itself. I would be back in Iceland in a heartbeat. If you could ever live anywhere in the world for a year, where would it be? That was a difficult one to think about because Australia is one of the places I would love to be able to live in for a year. It’s a huge place where you can experience so much nature. I’m a huge nature lover. I’d say Australia would be perfect. I will be able to surf world-class waves and explore the wildlife there. If you could travel with someone infamous or famous, dead or alive, who would it be? Kelly Slater. He would definitely take you to Australia, wouldn’t he? I will be happy to show him around Costa Rica too. He’s been here several times but there are some places I will be happy to show him. We’ll have to #KellySlater on this and see if he gets the message. That would be a dream come true. Packing for a trip, what is something you pack that may surprise our readers? I always pack food like Costa Rican treats and chocolates. I always need them with me. It sounds weird but I’m very fond of some things that I eat here in Costa Rica. Even if it’s for a week, I try to take my favorite chocolates from here because I like having them at night. Costa Rica has great chocolate for our readers if you didn’t know that. Finally, what is your most personal, memorable experience in Costa Rica?

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Costa Rica: There are a lot of beautiful and traditional Costa Rican restaurants where tourists can stop by and get that cultural connection not found anywhere else.

There’s a waterfall called Tinamaste in the Southern Pacific of Costa Rica. You will hike for an hour and a half through the rainforest and then you’ll come up to this huge waterfall. What makes it so special is that right behind the waterfall there’s a cave. The family that owns that farm has set up beds, a kitchen and bathrooms. You will go and sleep in the cave behind the waterfall. Have you done that? Yes, I’ve done it twice. That’s definitely my most memorable experience. That’s a bucket list item. That’s a great one. Did you sleep overnight in the cave? Yes. You hike there in the morning. You arrive at the waterfall in midday. You will have lunch in the waterfall, dinner and breakfast. There is no electricity or anything in the cave. It’s all with candle light and they will fix your meals there. How loud is it? Is it loud? It’s loud but since it’s water falling, it’s soothing. It’s delicious to sleep. It’s very humid. It’s in Tinamaste, the Southern Pacific near Ballena. From here, it’s a long drive. It’s five hours. That’s definitely a bucket list item for sure. How incredible. Thanks for sharing that with us. That’s great. I’ll be happy to send you more information because it is something special. You did great on the rapid-fire questions and we appreciate your time and your beautiful hotel. Where can our readers find you on social media and your website? We have our Instagram, which is @CasaChameleonHotels. There you’ll be able to find us on Instagram, Facebook also, Casa Chameleon Hotels. Our website is CasaChameleonHotels.com. You’ll be able to access all our properties and book there, and access some great specials that we have for booking online for our guests. Federico, thank you so much for your time. We greatly appreciate all the great ideas and explaining everything around the hotel, but also those great ideas you have far away. You gave us 5 or 6 fantastic suggestions. Thanks for joining us on the show. Thank you for having me. It was a pleasure meeting you. Let me know when you want to join me in one adventure here in Costa Rica. We certainly will.

Costa Rica is an amazing country. I’ve been there so many times. I always want to go back. We talked about the mountains, the beaches, hiking, surfing, Pura Vida. Probably the thing that I want to go back and do is the waterfalls just like Chak was saying. I’ve been to many and they are some of the best in the world. When you’re planning your trip, make sure that you look at all the great natural waterfalls that you can see. That’s my last great tip. Special thanks to our team here at Destination Everywhere. Make sure you subscribe, rate and review the show on your preferred podcast app or by going to Destination-Everywhere.com. Be sure to join us next time. Be safe out there.

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About Chak Menafacio

DE 20 | Costa RicaChak Menafacio is the CEO and founder of CHAKFitness, Costa Rica’s most unique, beachfront, outdoor gym located in Las Catalinas. He has been working as a fitness professional for over twenty years and is accredited by the NSCA, ACE, AFAA, and USA Gymnastics Association. He holds a license in sports massage therapy from the Florida College of Natural Health. Chak is ranked black belt of the first degree in Kung-Fu Shaolin. He was born in Geneva, Switzerland and was raised in Costa Rica where he started training in martial arts at the age of nine. He is truly an accomplished fitness professional. He has gained national exposure with featured articles in Self Magazine, Natural Awakenings, local publications, TV shows and fitness videos. He has performed at fitness conventions, competitions and exhibitions at more than one-hundred shows at national and international level.

About Federico Gurdián

DE 20 | Costa RicaFederico has been in the hospitality industry for over 12 years now and currently holds a BA in Hospitality and Human Resource Management from Glion Institute of Higher Education, Switzerland. During his time in the industry he had the opportunity to work for a big all-inclusive hotel in Riviera Maya, a big city hotel in Beijing, China and several boutique hotels in Costa Rica. Federico was born on April 13th, 1987 in San Jose, Costa Rica where he was raised. Both his parents are Costa Ricans as well as his brother. Federico’s biggest hobbies are surfing which he’s enjoyed for over 15 years now and more recently mountain biking has also become a hobby. He had the chance to be in charge of 2 hotel openings one of them being Casa Chameleon Las Catalinas and he could say that doing hotel openings is probably what he has enjoyed the most during his years of experience.

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Food Network Star and Chopped All-Star, Penny Davidi, shares her Los Angeles travel guide for your next meeting or corporate event. Plus, our hosts chat with Offer Nissenbaum, Managing Director of the Peninsula Beverly Hills Hotel to learn about their 5-star experiences. From Hollywood, the Sunset Strip, and Venice Beach to Rodeo Drive and Disneyland, there are many iconic experiences found only in LA. If you need the extra push to add The City of Angels to your destination list, tune in as we look at what makes Los Angeles one of their favorite meeting and event destinations. Enjoy this trip, Los Angeles!

Andy McNeill and Todd Bludworth are travel and hospitality entrepreneurs and owners of the global meetings organization, American Meetings, Inc. From sourcing venues in Los Angeles to corporate event management around the world, their team selects corporate event venues and meeting planners for a wide array of enterprise business clients, providing ideas for convention themes and strategies for running global meetings and events. Learn more at www.mtgshealth.wpengine.com.

Los Angeles Celebrity Chef Penny Davidi Talks Things To Do In Los Angeles And Hear From Luxury Hotel Peninsula Beverly Hills’ Managing Director, Offer Nissenbaum

Hollywood, the Sunset Strip, Venice Beach, Rodeo Drive and Disneyland. There are many iconic experiences found only in LA. In this episode, we look at what makes it one of our favorite travel spots. Joining us is Penny Davidi, an entrepreneur and Food Network celebrity chef who has curated menu for Lisa Vanderpump of Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. We also hear from Offer Nissenbaum, Managing Director for the five-star Peninsula Beverly Hills hotel for the inside scoop on luxury guest experiences for the rich and famous. We won’t need to convince you why The City of Angels is a destination for once in a lifetime experiences. Welcome to this episode of Destination Everywhere, Los Angeles.

We’re excited to be with you to talk about The City of Angels, Los Angeles. We’ve been there many times and had a lot of great experiences. We’re excited to bring a lot of them to you. Todd, in all the times we’ve been there, what are some of the top things that you like to do or the experiences that you want to share with our audience?

Some of the big ones that I can remember, because they were everything that you think of about Hollywood, was we got to go to a couple of the season finales of American Idol at the Staples Center. That was a lot of fun because you go a couple of days early and you experience everything. We stayed at the Roosevelt Hotel once. We stayed at the W once. You have the parties, glitz, red carpets, and a great show. It was awesome. I do remember one time there was this club where you go into this waiting room. There’s only a bed in it but then the bed lifts up and you walk underneath the bed. It was a speakeasy and you had no idea it was there. You’re blown away when you walk under the bed and then it’s a huge open space. That blew my mind. That was a fun night.

It was a great experience. You might immediately think of the Hollywood sign, Universal Studios, Paramount Pictures, the Walk of Fame. There’s so much to do.

Also, the Grauman’s Chinese Theatre.

We’re going to give you some great unique bucket list things to do. There are over 100 museums there. They’ve hosted two Olympics and they’re going to host in 2028 again. How exciting is that going to be for the United States?

Here’s an interesting fact. The average traveler in LA spends 72 hours a year in traffic. If you’re going, make time to get from point A to point B or stay where you want to visit.

It’s one of those cities that it takes 0.5 to 1 hour to get anywhere, even if you’re just going across the neighborhood. It’s such a sprawling city. The 405 is infamous for being one of the most jam-packed freeways. It’s not easy to get on a freeway and go. If you’re going with a group of people or taking a group or a corporate group, it can be a challenge. You have to be prepared. We’re going to focus on the great stuff. We have some fantastic guests. We’ve got some great bucket list items to do. Todd, who’s going to be our first guest?

I’m excited about our first guest. She is born in Iran, raised in California. She is the first Persian Jew to be featured on the Food Network. She’s appeared on Chopped All-Stars, the Food Network Star, Cutthroat Kitchen, Guy’s Grocery Games, Vanderpump Rules, The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. She’s also quite a personality. She opened Pump Lounge in West Hollywood, which we’ve been to had a great time with the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills star, Lisa Vanderpump. She was the executive chef and menu creator. She’s also a verified influencer on TripAdvisor. Without further ado, Chef Penny Davidi.

Penny, I want to talk a little bit about before the TV shows, what was your background?

I went to South Beach, Florida and came across this concept, Pizza Rustica. I fell in love with it and thought, “How fabulous. I can bring this to LA, build the brand, open up multiple locations, and build a pizza empire.” I brought the concept back, opened up a few locations, and built my culinary chops inside of Pizza Rustica in Beverly Hills, which was my first culinary destination. From there, I decided, “I love this much.” Food Network was on the television all the time. Even though I had no plans, nothing in the works about being on television, people would ask me, “What’s next?” I would say, “I’m going to be on the Food Network.” Meanwhile, nothing because I’m a big believer of manifesting. Talk about making it happen and propelling myself onto that network. I literally had to force myself down their throat. I’m like, “I’m an Iranian Jew and you are going to like me, embrace me, and make this work.”

They did those, didn’t they?

The thing is I had no culinary experience. Everyone was like, “You’re going to go take on these chefs.” I was like, “Yes, I’m going to go take this on.” When I first tried it out, I didn’t think they would see it but they saw it. It was a time that the Kardashians had come on the screen and Armenian family, big mama, big hair, big boobs, big everything. When they saw me, they were like, “We can have a Kardashian-looking thing on the Food Network. This is great.” That’s how they cast. If you watch Food Network Star, which was the first thing I did on Food Network back in 2011, they have me coming onto Hollywood Boulevard in the first scene in 6-inch Prada, leopard skin stilettos, and a red Valentino vest in some wife beater and big hair.

DE 19 | Los Angeles Travel Guide

Los Angeles Travel Guide: Some of the most amazing things are incomplete holes in the walls.

 

Penny, let’s talk a little bit about your restaurants that a lot of people know of because they have been featured in the shows. Andy and I ate at Pump in 2020. We had a great time. All the servers look like models. You’re intimidated but it was a lot of fun, and then there’s TomTom. What was your role at both of those restaurants?

Lisa Vanderpump is a smart woman and an incredible businesswoman. She wanted a restaurant that was going to be more than something that relied on TV shows. She already had Villa Blanca and the association to what she did with Housewives at the beginning. It was important that she had a culinary influence or a footprint. Through some mutual friends, we connected and I decided to come out as the culinarian, as the menu curator, executive chef. We collaborated on some recipes that she definitely has influenced because she’s interned, traveled well and well cultured. She knows her way around the kitchen. I wanted a lot of my Middle Eastern Mediterranean influences without being in your face of that’s the kind of cuisine that you were having. You know the scene. You’re sitting under these olive trees that are 100 years old, and everything from the landscaping in there to every light that’s gone up to every candle that’s sitting on the table is handpicked by me.

That’s experiential for sure.

Tell us about TomTom.

TomTom is two doors down. It was the two Toms from Vanderpump Rules who decided that they wanted a part of the action and get into the restaurant space. They wanted something unique like a speakeasy bar concept. Lisa said, “We can’t do it without great food. What’s the direction now?” I made an incredibly sexy, more bar bites and communal eating, lots of vegan options, lots of playing around with plant-based options.

They are popular, right?

It’s huge. That’s a big trend. She brought it home with a beautiful patio outside that overlooks the city in great vibes and packing the place in on a daily basis. Now, I’m working on multiple new restaurant projects. I’m super excited.

Tell us about Penny Eats and Pivot LA.

Penny Eats is because many people are asking me on a daily basis, “Where can we go eat? What do you suggest? Who’s open? Who’s doing outdoor dining? Who’s got the best delivery on this, that or the other?” I decided that, “I’ve got to do something with this,” and then decided to partner up and get on it with Instagram and do an IGTV series called Penny Eats, which covers my favorite foods around LA, San Diego and San Francisco. We’re starting with our local. Supporting local businesses in our own areas and partnering up with other influencers and other celebrity chefs in different parts of the country for them to do the same thing.

Have you found something special by doing that? Any new places that people should be aware of?

I want you to tune in and watch. I realized that some of the most amazing things are incomplete holes in the walls that you don’t expect from Korean barbecue. People see Korean barbecue as something that has to be refined in some great places. What’s the quality of meat? You are making sure there’s a grade A. For me, the Korean barbecue spot in Korea Town is scared to put up the fact that they have a B and they hide it, but that’s flavor to me because there’s nothing wrong with that. Some of the best food comes off these food trucks. Lord knows some of them have seized but I got to tell you, those food trucks have the best food ever.

Penny, we have five questions for you. These are our rapid-fire questions. The goal here is we’re looking for our guests who are world travelers and have been everywhere to parlay their expertise to our readers so they can read what you would do and have done over the course of your travels and maybe get some great ideas. The first one is have you ever completed anything on your bucket list? If so, what was it?

I have multiple things but I’ll give you my biggest one. In 2020, one of my destinations that was local that we went to outside of LA was Yosemite. The park is beautiful. If you watch some of these movies like Meru, it’s unbelievable. I wanted to see Half Dome and El Cap. Those are on my bucket list, big time. Did I climb either one? God knows. I took lots of great pictures. I did get a chance to see and it was incredible for me is bears. The bears were amazing. Another bucket list was being able to take my husband and our entire family including our parents for an almost two months trip all over Europe.

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Next question, if you could live anywhere in the world for a year, where would it be?

Italy. I’m a foodie. I love to cook. I love to gather on big communal tables and fill it up with amazing fresh things from my garden. Where else in the world can you do that but Italy. There’s something about the longest living people in the world live on a remote island in Italy. The Mediterranean guy. He’s 120 and still walks to his little bar. They asked him, “What’s the secret?” He said, “We eat well, we rest well, we drink well.”

If you could travel with someone and infamous or famous, alive or dead, who would it be?

Famous, I would say Oprah. Great conversation. She’s a big foodie, loves to eat, and adventurous. Sitting around with a bottle of wine and picking her brain in different parts of the world. That would be amazing. Non-famous? It’s honestly my husband. He’s a great traveler and up for anything. He’s more of a shopaholic than I am. It all comes in handy.

When you’re packing for a trip, what does something that you pack that may surprise our readers?

They’re not anything fabulous but to me are necessary, baby wipes because I have to have wet wipes. My body and my system won’t work regularly when I’m on vacation. It’s the worst thing in the world to deal with constipation. I have to travel with the same coffee that I have at home every day. It keeps you regular. That’s the most important thing. It’s the regularity on a trip.

You are not the first person to say coffee, but you’re the first person to say because of constipation.

I’m trying to explain that when I’m going to Westerns and some countries. I’m like, “I’m not bringing medication. I’m just bringing my own coffee.”

The last question is what is your most memorable experience in Los Angeles?

I’m all about creating great experiences at home for multiple reasons. Especially when I do traveling, it’s already work for me. Getting on a plane and going someplace, it’s work-related for me, to be able to do a couple of things locally. I love going to the Malibu Beach Inn, Shutters, The Ritz-Carlton in Laguna or St. Regis, anything along the coast which is 1 to 2 hours within my reach. My most memorable one was going to Malibu Beach Inn with my husband, buying in advance everything that we love to have on a short cruise we board. Checking in on a Friday with my own cooler, the best cheeses, the best salamis, great bread, some great bottles of wine, checking in on a Friday, and checking out on a Sunday night at peace and enjoying that. I’m all about play staycation.

Penny, you’ve been fantastic. Tell us about your show on IGTV.

It’s Penny Eats LA, covering some of my favorite dishes around Los Angeles. It’s going to be a weekly thing. Please tune in. Find me on Instagram, Chef Penny Davidi. Facebook, @ChefPennyDavidi. YouTube at @ChefPennyDavidi. Most importantly in Instagram. I’m an influencer on TripAdvisor because they think I know what I’m talking about. I appreciate that.

We can’t wait to see you and visit with you the next time we are in LA. Thank you for joining us on the show. You stay safe.

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Los Angeles Travel Guide: Penny Eats LA covers some of your favorite dishes around Los Angeles.

 

Thank you.

Wasn’t Chef Penny, amazing? How much fun is she?

She’d be fun to go out and have a couple of cocktails with. You could pick her brain for a while and she’d give you all the good gossip on.

She invited us. We have to go back and have her take us up on the town. We’ve got an amazing top ten list for you. There are many things to do in LA. We’re going to do some unique ones and some general ones that are worthwhile. The first one is to view the Hollywood sign from horseback. You can see the Hollywood sign. You can hike to it. You can also do it with a group horseback riding. How much fun is that? They are longer rides and they take you up on the top of Mount Hollywood for a 360-degree view. You’re going through Griffith Park, which also has the Griffith Observatory. You’ve seen it in lots of movies. It’s a historic and beautiful building. You can walk around it without even going into it and it’s worthwhile. You have to stop and use the restroom throughout there too. That’s a great tip.

I was surprised with the amount of hiking there is to do around Los Angeles.

Right Downtown.

Also all along the coast. It was impressive and the wrecks are great hikes.

We’ve done some amazing beach hikes as well. There’s so much outdoor activity as well, which a lot of people don’t even consider. If you’re thinking of doing hiking, do the Bronson Canyon which is a collection of caves most often used for filming locations. That’s also great to do in and around that area. That’s where the actual Batcave was in the 1960s.

We went on a hike and dinner, and we ran into the beach’s cottage, the little cottage from beaches one time. We’re like, “That looks familiar,” then we found out what it was. Our next item moving on is when you think of Hollywood, you think of studios. You can do a VIP tour of Paramount Studios. What’s cool about these VIP tours is you get a little bit of additional access to things like the special effects areas, sign shops, the prop warehouse, and soundstages. Those are always impressive especially when you can see the soundstages for shows that you may have or do watch, which is always neat. You never know what celebrity you might see walking around the studio.

My next one is one that everybody would like to do and we’re going to tell you how you can do it. It’s to land a spot on the Academy Awards’ red carpet. The event takes place in February on a Sunday and long lines form way in advance. It’s hard to even get a glimpse of all the stars on the red carpet. The Oscars have an Oscar fan experience. Contestants can win free tickets and they allow 700 people to be selected to sit in the stands on the red carpet. Register for that and you never know, you might get to be right there at the Academy Awards.

Our next item is being an audience member at one of the shows. A few years ago, we were walking around the Chinese Theater looking at the footprints and buses pulled up. They were recruiting people to come in, sit and watch the tapings of their shows. You get on the bus and they take you to whatever studio is doing the shows. I saw Hollywood Squares. I remember Anna Nicole Smith and there were some other celebrities. They do that, you can go to these shows, and it’s daily. One of the big game shows is The Price Is Right hosted by Drew Carey. What you can do is you can reserve a ticket online, then you can wait in line at the studio. That’s one of the only shows where audience members can be a guest, which is cool. Whether it’s a game show or a recording of another show or even one of the late night talk shows.

It’s a great afternoon activity to do.

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It’s an awesome experience. It’s a lot of fun.

You get to see TV in action. Our next one is a tour of Willy Wonka-style Distillery in Downtown LA. Lost Spirits Distillery is not your typical tour by any shape or form. It can be described as an attraction from Disneyland as you’re guided through different themed rooms where the spirits are made and can be tasted. It’s a great thing to do in the daytime or evening, and a fun thing to do with some friends and have a couple of drinks. That is the Lost Spirits Distillery, a great bucket list item.

Let’s talk about the food because it’s a twenty-course sushi dining experience at Nozawa Bar. This is located in Sugarfish Beverly Hills Restaurant. The sushi bar is created early each morning because the chefs visit the LA fish markets to select the fish of the day. You want to make reservations in advance because there are only ten seats. If you want an unbelievably fresh sushi dining experience, plan ahead and make that happen.

There’s another one called Board of Flight at Air Hollywood?

This one right up my alley because I’m one of those people that when we do a show, I’m always like, “What movies were filmed there?” Just to get a perspective of the romance behind it possibly. Air Hollywood is an entertainment studio. It’s designed specifically for airplane movie sets. Whenever you see someone on an airplane and you’re like, “Who does that? Are they on an airplane?” They did movie sets for Bridesmaids, Wolf of Wall Street, Modern Family, and most scenes of airplanes were filmed right there.

I wonder if the original Airplane was done there, Airplane 1 and Airplane 2.

I don’t know how far it goes back but that was all one big movie set. You can explore multiple sets of commercial flights, private jets, airport terminals, jetways and even airplane bathrooms.

We have to do that. How much fun is that?

You can even rent the props from the set. They offer an event called the Pan Am experience where people can experience 1970 service accompanied by a fine dining meal.

Here’s a great one if you’re bringing a group for all of our meetings and event managers that reading this. You can host private events at the Roosevelt Hotel’s The Spare Room. It’s a gaming parlor. It’s called The Spare Room because it has two vintage bowling lanes. It’s a great intimate space for social gatherings. It has a cocktail lounge, great for birthday parties, for a private event, engagement party, gender reveal. Put that on your list if you’re trying to do a group event.

There’s something else about the Roosevelt. It’s almost guaranteed when you go into the pool at the Roosevelt, you’re going to have a star sighting. It’s also a great place to hang out during the day. If you are an art lover and an art fan, you have the LACMA, which is the LA County Museum of Art. This is something to Chris Burden’s famous 202 cast-iron streetlamps design. There are also many exhibits inside the museum. You could probably spend a good afternoon there. On the second Tuesday of every month, admission is free.

If you have a little bit more time and this is in San Simeon, you can go check out Hearst Castle which is an amazing piece of architecture. It is huge. It is the home of William Randolph Hearst who was the media empire tycoon. It was one of those places in the roaring twenties that would have knocked your socks off. There are all kinds of stories about that and the family but this is a William Randolph Hearst. His lifestyle was satired by Orson Welles in Citizen Kane, and Xanadu which was the house is based on Hearst Castle.

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Los Angeles Travel Guide: The Peninsula Academy creates unique experiences from taking a helicopter and going to Malibu, landing in a vineyard and having a beautiful lunch and a wine tasting, then coming back.

 

Is it a museum now?

It is a preserved home. The former name is La Quinta Encantada, which is The Enchanted Hill. It’s an amazing place. It takes a little time to get there but it’s well worth the trip.

You may not be able to stay there, but we have a place that you can stay. We’re going to be talking to Offer Nissenbaum, the Managing Director of the Peninsula Beverly Hills.

We are here with a special guest who I’m excited to speak to. His property, the Peninsula Beverly Hills, is the only five-star property in Southern California. Welcome the Managing Director of the Peninsula Beverly Hills, Offer Nissenbaum. Offer, welcome to the show.

Thank you for taking the time. I’m happy to speak with you.

We’ve been to your property and we love it. We can’t wait to know all the exciting things that you guys are doing there.

What are some of the most unique things about the Peninsula Beverly Hills that you think stand apart from some of the other luxury experiences?

We have several programs within the hotel that we do that are unique, different and special to us. One of them is called Peninsula Time, which is a program that has evolved over the years where the guests can check-in any time they want and check-out whenever they want. The flexibility of being able to check-in at 8:00 in the morning and check-out the next day at 10:00 at night gives more time to the guests to spend on the property and not have to worry and not have to stress over, “Can I get a late check-out? Am I going to be able to get into the room early?” We’ve taken away that stress from the guests.

How do you ensure that you’re delivering the best? With that, what are some of the requests that you’ve had that seem out of touch for some people or for some other properties that you’re like, “We can make that happen?” If there’s anything that you can think of, I’d love to know it.

We do have discerning guests. The key is to find out as much as you can before they arrive, to find out what their needs and likes are. We have a program within the hotel where we present the proverbial fruit basket. When we go to refresh it, we noticed which fruit the guests ate and only refresh those fruit because if somebody only likes apples and that’s the only thing they eat from the fruit basket, we will then know that their favorite fruit is apple or they move for apple. We look at those little details to focus on the guests and their needs.

Why is it important to know what side of the bed a guest sleeps on if they’re alone? Because at night, when they reach for the water, it’s got to be on the side that’s closest to them. They don’t have to go over to the other side of the king-size bed to get the water. The little details like if the guest’s toothpaste is below half, we will go out and replace it completely with their brand and place it there. It’s thoughtful things. We love to do things that are thoughtful because our whole motto here is connecting with guests emotionally.

It’s thoughtful, personal and then you also personalize. Tell us what you do with your pillowcases.

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For every guest that checks into the hotel, we have their initials and their loved ones, whoever is in the room will have their initials as well. It’s on the pillowcase and sometimes we can do it in different colors and five different languages. You can imagine coming into the hotel and have your initials in Chinese on the pillowcase. It’s thoughtful. It sends a strong message to the guests that we thought about them. They’re not another guest. Time was taken to think about their personal experience, and we’re happy to have them there. That’s the message that it sends. Every guest gets monogram pillowcases. In some cases, there are two initials. In some cases, there are three where we also include their middle initial. We have fun with it. It’s great. It’s a topic of conversation. Many of the guests take it home with them.

Let’s talk about unique experiences because you try to make everything special and unique. If you had a family member or a friend staying at the hotel, what type of your unique experiences is Peninsula known for or stuff that is created by your concierge or your events team that you’d like to convey?

We have a program called The Peninsula Academy, which creates unique experiences from taking a helicopter and going to Malibu, landing in a vineyard and having a beautiful lunch and a wine tasting, then coming back. My particular favorite is taking a picnic basket along with some phenomenal food and wine, and having a private big picnic on the ocean by the beach, catered and the chef cooking for you right then and there. It’s been the best experience. For a while, we were able to use Olivia Newton-John’s house, which is appropriately called Xanadu. We had access to that private beach. The page with the hat would come with the basket, and the people would have a picnic, spend a few hours there, have a nice lunch. The privacy of the ocean is there and the comfort level of being unique.

That is a bucket list for sure.

How do you prepare for award season? What do you do?

The award season is such a buzz both in the hotel and outside the hotel. We do a lot of work before the guest arrives. When they are out and attending the award whether it be Grammys, Golden Globes or Academy Awards, we have a staff member watch the award show. If they win, we create a special amenity on the theme of the movie or the role that they played that they won the award for. It’s molded in a way that sends a message to the guests, “We know what you played. We know what movie you were in or a TV show.” There’s a bottle of champagne and something out of chocolate or pastry that is connected to the theme of what they won.

One of the nicest things that had happened during the Academy Awards or the Golden Globe’s is when a well-known star who continues to stay with us won the Golden Globe Award. He came back with the Golden Globe and gave it to the front desk to hold them to pass along, spent ten minutes with them, then he went to the bar. He was sitting there and bought drinks for everybody. We’re intimate enough of a hotel to be able to do that. What a nice gesture on his part. He’s a remarkable actor and the way that he carried himself was down to earth, humanistic and incredible. We’re fortunate to have people like that stay here.

One thing I thought was special about your property versus some others are your villas. You can do special in the villas. You have everything from multi-bedroom suites to smaller villas, but they also have outdoor areas. It’s valuable for our readers to know that if you want something unique and special at the Peninsula Beverly Hills, those venues are nice.

The villas are unique. It’s almost small homes. The one thing that many people don’t know about our villas is that you have your own entry into the villas and exit. Meaning you do not have to go through the lobby of the hotel and the front entrance of the hotel. There are secret doors from the street that you can access with a special key. That way you have complete privacy. This comes in handy with celebrities but also individuals who have had what I call elective surgery. They don’t want to be seen and want to recover privately and quietly. If privacy is important to you, the villas are your type of accommodations. It is surrounded by gardens. It’s beautiful and it’s not your typical hotel experience because it’s like little homes and little villas.

It’s a neighborhood back there.

It’s quiet. It’s secluded, yet it’s accessible to the hotel and all the services. It’s not on separate grounds. It’s all within the same grounds as the hotel. Some of them have plunge pools and full kitchens if this is what your needs are. We have a variety of different villas that are unique and special to us.

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Los Angeles Travel Guide: It’s not your typical hotel experience because it has little villas that are quiet and secluded, yet accessible to the hotel and all the services.

 

Let’s talk about Le Petit Belvedere and the Executive Chef David Codney. What are your signature dishes in the restaurant? What can people expect in terms of dining?

Petit Belvedere came about as a pop-up. We decided to do something a little bit different on Fridays and Saturday nights and create a French Brasserie American type of menu, which will be fun with French music and do something of an environment like you were sitting outdoors in the gardens in Paris. It became wildly successful that we had to open five days for dinner. You sit in the garden, it’s beautiful.

In the middle of the restaurant is a Robert Indiana sculpture of LOVE, which is lit up at night. At 8:00 at night, we stop everything and we do a toast. Every single guest, every single table, we pour champagne and we do a toast. We say, “For all the people who haven’t had a chance to celebrate an anniversary, a birthday, whatever the case may be, this is to you.” Everybody says that it’s a wonderful moment. The menu is a fun menu. It has the traditional moules-frite, croque-monsieur, lots of good fish and salads but it’s got a French accent on it. We had done it in a way that’s not intimidating, comfortable and delicious. It’s been well received.

What is your most personal memorable experience in The City of Angels?

Going to the Grammys several times was phenomenal. I love music and it’s one big concert that is unique and special. You can never have it in a regular venue. Also, going to the Academy Awards and the red carpet was unique and special.

You have done it all. Thank you for your time and for the opportunity to showcase the Peninsula Beverly Hills and all the wonderful amenities and experiences you can have with them.

Thank you for your time and for having me on.

That’s it for LA. We’ll be back multiple times because there’s so much to do, many great hotels and places this day.

It changes all the time.

It’s one of those living, breathing cities. We’re going to go out there and see Penny. Maybe stop by and say hi to Offer, and get a drink in the bar. Thanks, everybody. It’s been a great show.

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About Penny Davidi

DE 19 | Los Angeles Travel GuidePenny Davidi is conquering the states with her Middle Eastern recipes on Food Network Star – Season 7. Also on Chopped All Stars Season 2, where she defeats her 3 fellow contestants and lands a spot against the top 3 in a CAS Showdown which aired in May of 2012. Penny has done several shows, including Cutthroat Kitchen, Kitchen Inferno and Guys Grocery Games All-Stars on The Food Network, plus shows on Spike, Fyi and several Bravo Shows including RHOBH and Vanderpump Rule’s.

In May 2014 Penny opened PUMP LOUNGE in West Hollywood with Real Housewives Star Lisa Vanderpump, as Executive Chef and Menu Curator. In August 2018, Penny opened up TOM TOM BAR AND LOUNGE with Lisa Vanderpump and her team. Penny’s most recent venture…The Speaking circuit! Look out for her new projects… “Penny Eats” and “Pivot LA” covering her favorite food finds. Born in Iran and raised in California, Penny is the first Persian Jewish Chef and Businesswoman to be featured on the Food Network.

A mother of two teenagers, Penny grew up learning the art of cooking from the women in her family and used this knowledge as a launching pad to fuse creativity and personality to develop her own innovative recipes. Her Specialty…. The Mediterranean… Join her on this Culinary Journey through the Spice Route.

About Offer Nissenbaum

DE 19 | Los Angeles Travel GuideOffer Nissenbaum has been a leader in the field of luxury hospitality since early in his career when, at the age of only 30, he was appointed the General Manager of the Doral Saturnia International Spa Resort, at the time the highest-rated hotel spa in the U.S. and the first to receive the AAA Five Diamond award. Today, as Managing Director of The Peninsula Beverly Hills, Nissenbaum continues his unique style of customer-focused leadership for this iconic luxury hotel. Prior to joining The Peninsula Hotels in December 2007, Nissenbaum was overseeing nine hotels as Regional Vice President of Operations for Omni Hotels, based in New York City.

“There was no question about making the switch from multi-property responsibilities to just one – simply because it was The Peninsula Beverly Hills,” he recalls. Nissenbaum was raised in Israel and Canada and graduated with a degree in hospitality management from Paul Smith’s College in upstate New York. He began his hotel management career with The Park Lane Hotel and in 1986 joined Doral Hotels & Resorts at the company’s Doral Tuscany Hotel in New York. Nissenbaum later spent several years with Toronto-based Delta Hotels & Resorts, then returned to Manhattan to become Resident Manager of The Plaza.

Several years later he joined Omni Hotels and, in 2002, was awarded the Human Relations Award in Hospitality by the American Jewish Committee. Nissenbaum, who speaks French, German and Hebrew, plays ice-hockey and soccer and is a volunteer referee for little league soccer in Beverly Hills. He was active in charities and community organizations while living in New York, and he continues to be an active involved member of the Beverly Hills and Los Angeles communities in support of important civic and philanthropic initiatives. Nissenbaum and his team are currently preparing for the hotel’s upcoming 30th Anniversary in 2021.

 

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7 Tips for Planning a Successful Virtual or Live Tradeshow

7 Tips for Planning a Successful Virtual or Live Tradeshow

Tradeshows can be very beneficial – for event organizers to generate additional revenue and industry recognition; for vendors to receive more exposure, leads and sales; and for attendees to get inspired and make connections.

Our current climate has changed how tradeshows look and how they are conducted, but they are worth it, especially if set up and managed well.

Here are some tips to do exactly that:

Give It Time

Especially on a first-time tradeshow or expo, give your team plenty of time to brainstorm and plan. Consider the target audience, overall goals, and how to achieve the objectives. What needs and wants does the team have? Does it make the most sense to be virtual or live? What’s the overall budget? What traits will the ideal venue have (if live)? Who may sponsor? Who may want to have exhibits?

Don’t rush, instead, take the time to build a high-quality event that will build interest for years to come so you don’t have to reinvent year over year. Consider how the event may look now and how you’d like it to look in the future.

Plan a Theme

With a deep understanding of your objectives, target audience, and expected vendors, choose a theme that helps you clearly identify your message and reach out to prospects. The clearer you are, the easier it is to target the appropriate demographics and appeal to them. Do your research to create a tradeshow that meets the needs of both attendees and exhibitors.

In marketing and branding, use the theme – and have fun with it!

Get Sponsors

Whether exhibitors, product or service sponsors, get commitments on advertising. Advertisers can purchase recognition by sponsoring all print materials (if you use them), gifts/swag (whether shipped or in-person), catering (if applicable), awards, programs, entertainment, and more. Get creative and off-set costs with great sponsors.

Knowing your budget will help you determine how many and what types of sponsors you need. In the virtual meeting setting, you can still brand slides, gifts, awards, and more. Be creative with sponsorships and be sure to deliver value to both advertisers and attendees.

Book Your Venue or Determine Your Platform

Knowing your theme and expected attendance and exhibitors, choose a venue that can appropriately accommodate your expo. If you are doing a hybrid or virtual event, choose an online platform that can accommodate all your registration and tradeshow needs. Vendors may want to use online scheduling platforms to meet with participants in a one-to-one setting, virtually or in-person for demonstrations. Help to make this happen by determining needs and including them in your planning.

Breakout rooms – whether virtual or live, need to meet your goals and budget and be easy to navigate. Use clear communication to help participants know how to find what they need.

Book as early as possible to get the best location and rate and be sure to ask about cancellation policies in case of changes to local mandates. Use technology to increase engagement and safety wherever possible, such as creating digital maps and check-in.

Plan the Layout (If In-Person/Hybrid)

Once you have a venue chosen, plan a layout that includes premium booth spaces and standard spaces to offer to prospective vendors. Be sure to include information about outlets, drapes, booth set up/tear down, and more to communicate early and often.

Use signage to support safety measures and attendee flow. Manage occupancy guidelines with restricted and/or monitored entrances.

Understand the limitations and new protocols for safety including waiting areas, parking, registration, and amenities. The venue can offer suggestions for room set-up which you want to take into consideration for flow, especially if distancing rules are in place.

Plan the Flow (If Virtual)

Venue layout is exchanged for event flow in the digital space. Practice how participants will “travel” through the event, such as using waiting rooms and breakout rooms. Determine how attendees will participate and what needs to be in place to facilitate sessions and transitions.

Determine any backup plan in the case of technical issues.

Consider Entertainment

Relevant entertainment and fun can incise attendees into the show and keep them there longer. Determine what needs attendees may have and try to meet those needs (such as refreshments and beverages) to keep participants engaged and moving through the expo.

Whether virtual or live these components can be included and should be! Being distracted can happen more frequently when an attendee is virtual – so fight for their attention by inviting them to engage with gifts they open at specific intervals in the event or by using a fun MC and providing entertainment.

With live or hybrid events, entertainment should be booked early as well and used to help promote the fun of the event, and catering should be on par with the theme and overall flow.

Market, Market, Market

To make the event truly beneficial, attendance is critical. Encourage cross-promotion by having vendors invite attendees as well. Remember, you will be selling vendor spaces, advertising spots, and admission tickets almost simultaneously. Being clear about who will attend and who will exhibit will help you do this well.

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A Conversation with Emmy-Award Winning Travel Journalist Peter Greenberg, Pt. 2 – Travel Tips

A Conversation with Emmy-Award Winning Travel Journalist Peter Greenberg, Pt. 2 – Travel Tips


CBS Travel Editor Peter Greenberg shares his best travel tips and how to discover secret spots. Peter also shares his favorite travel stories as a CBS journalist. Known in the travel industry as “The Travel Detective,” he is America’s most recognized, honored, and respected front-line travel news journalist. Don’t miss this second installation of The Destination Everywhere Podcast’s visit with Peter to discover more special and unique things for you to do wherever you go.

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Travel Tips with Peter Greenberg

Destination Everywhere, Hidden Gems. Isolated islands, intriguing histories and rich culture can be discovered outside the resorts and tourist attractions but you need to know where to look and how to traverse there safely. We’re interviewing Emmy Award winning journalist, Peter Greenberg. This CBS travel editor has dug up some of the best kept secrets in the Caribbean, Egypt, Dominican Republic, Western Europe and more. He’s ready to share those with us. Peter will also share his best travel advise and personal stories. Travel is about adventure and exploration and you sure to find that spirit ignited into this episode with award winning Travel Journalist, Peter Greenberg.

We’re here for our second installation of our conversation with Travel Journalist, Peter Greenberg with his Hidden Gems. He won an Emmy. He has traveled all over the world. He’s done both investigative reporting as well as travel experiences around the world and multiple shows. He is going to give us the best of the best of what he has.

Let’s jump right into part two of our discussion with Peter Greenberg.

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What’s the story that you’re most proud of as an investigative journalist?

I don’t know how much time we have, because I don’t have one. It’s ranging from an investigative piece that I did on the death of Freddie Prinze. For those people who remember the star of Chico and the Man who died in the late ‘70s to investigating airline crashes, on the worst aviation disaster in American history, American Flight 191 on May 25th, 1979 in Chicago. I was a correspondent. I did my fair share. I did all the Patty Hearst covers and almost all the Watergate covers and let’s not forget OJ. There are all sorts of stuff there that ranges from political to crime to crazy stuff.

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Travel Tips: Rwanda is basically a template for other countries to follow.

 

What have you uncovered about the travel industry that might help our guests maneuver the system a little easier? What should they be aware of that might be getting swept under the rugs when they start to travel?

Whenever I go anywhere, you name the destination, the Dominican Republic or Denver, what’s the first place I stop at? The very first place I stop is where I know I’m going to get all the information I need about that destination from credible sources. The first place I go to is the fire department and I’ll tell you why. They’ve been in everybody’s house, in everybody’s hotel and in everybody’s restaurant. They’ve been everywhere. They know where to go. They know where not to go. They also know where to eat. Those are the men and women who are your most credible sources and nobody figured that out yet. I figured it out because I’m also a fireman here in New York. I’ve done it since I’m eighteen and I’m on duty 3 days a week, 7 months a year but if you’re looking for great and nonpartisan sources of information, stop at the firehouse. It’s unbelievable.

How many times have you gotten the hand saying, “No, you can’t come in here and do this?” You get more honey, what’s the saying?

Here’s the thing, you never ask permission, you beg forgiveness. That’s number one. Number two and this is my all-time big mantra, “You never take a no from somebody who’s not empowered to give you a yes in the first place.” That applies to getting a telephone installed or getting the cable guy in or it applies to a border guard in Tibet. There’s always a way to do it. The way to do it, which I wish more people would do although they’re usually too afraid to do it is the big C word. You need to have a conversation. Too many people go, “Can I go there?” The answer is no. First, you have to establish common ground, find out what they had for breakfast. What’s interesting to them? Learn from them and then all of a sudden they’ll go, “You want to come in?” “Yeah, can I?” You’re in.

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Speaking of the conversation, I will tell you a story about how things work. I did a movie many years ago based on a story I did for Newsweek called Red Flag about an Air Force war game that’s realistic that people were getting killed. They’re still doing the games now at Nellis Air Force Base in Nevada. That was a two-hour movie we did for CBS. When that movie aired, I got a call from the US Navy saying, “We’d love to do a movie with you. What do you want to do?” I said, “I want to do X.” They laughed at me and they said, “It’s never been allowed. It’s never going to be happening. You can’t do it.” I said, “If I could do it, who would be the person to give me permission?” They said, “CINCPAC, Commander-in-Chief of the Pacific in Pearl.” I said, “Can you get me an appointment to go see the admiral?” They go, “Why? Are you going to fly all the way to Hawaii so he can say no?” I said, “Yeah.”

They gave me a ten-minute appointment at 9:00 in the morning on a Monday. I flew up on a Saturday. I walked in to see him. He could care less about me. I was told to have a meeting. He didn’t want to be there. It was an office the size of Grand Central Station. Everybody was in their dress whites. They didn’t want me to be there. It was like a courtesy call. I give him a commemorative coin and get him out. This is the difference. You seek out common ground and I knew that I had maybe fifteen seconds to figure out what the common ground was.

I got lucky because behind his desk was a photograph of a boat and it turned out I knew the boat well. I said to him, “Is that a Bertram 31?” He said, “Damn straight.” I said, “That’s the best boat they ever built.” He said, “You’re not kidding?” I said, “Let me guess. When you make a hard right turn, the engine cavitates and the water pump overflows, doesn’t it?” He goes, “Yeah.” I said, “Here’s how you fix it. You’re going to do a bypass on the impeller.” We start talking like that and ten minutes later, the officer is going to say, “Admiral, your time is up.” He looked at me and said, “Do you have lunch plans?” I said, “I’m all yours.” He said, “Meet me at the officers club.”

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Travel Tips: The first place to go is the fire department. They’ve been in everybody’s hotel and restaurant. They’ve been everywhere. They know where to go.

 

When that lunch was over, all hell broke loose in Pearl Harbor. All hell broke loose in the Pentagon because I was given the first top security clearance to go on a class of admission on an attack nuclear sub. When the Pentagon found out about it, they made the admiral go with me. It turned out to be fabulous because what was I doing at the time in addition to being a journalist? I was the head of television at Paramount. Now, go do your homework and find out what came after that.

The Hunt for Red October, I’m guessing.

You got it. I allowed it to be made because they felt comfortable because they’d worked with me. I had nothing to do with the movie, except all the stuff you saw in that movie happened to us on that mission other than Sean Connery defecting.

Do you get a tip from somebody or is there already a story and you’re going deeper into it? How does it evolve?

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It starts with relationships. I like to think of myself as a walking Rolodex. I can make the calls that will be taken usually not because of my sparkling personality, but because of the chair in which I sit. People don’t get this. It’s like me walking into the admiral’s office asking if I could go on the sub. That’s not how it gets done. You spend a lot of time not asking for it. The analogy would be, how do you get an upgrade on a plane? You get to the airport, you see all these people standing around the counter like the scene from Midnight Express. They’re walking in circles and they’ve all asked the same question, “Can I have an upgrade?” The answer is, “No, get out of here.”

That’s not how I do it. What I do in normal times either in LAX or JFK, I will go out to the airport on a day I have no plans to go anywhere, zero. I will pick a terminal and I’ll walk the counters at a time they’re not busy like 11:00 in the morning and I get to know everybody. I talk to them about things that are interesting to them, things they could learn from. I establish common ground so that when something goes on, they call me. It’s not me showing up like I parachuted in and they don’t know me from a hologram. They do know me. That means every day, I wake up with a call list of 120 people and of those people, I can promise you, 90 of them I have no agenda.

I’m calling to say hi and check-in. I’m not asking for anything nor would I. At the end of the day, do you know what happens to those people when they’re doing their own psychological post-mortem of how their day was? They liked me better because I was the only person not asking for anything at all. People forget it. You’ve got to plant the seeds. You’ve got to establish relationships. You’ve got to nurture them. You’ve got to establish trust and out of that trust then they’ll feel comfortable if not telling you the whole story, at least pointing you in the right direction.

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Travel Tips: It’s an amazing moment to be up there sitting there at about 4:35 in the morning, just as the moon was going down and the sun was coming up.

 

Do you get jaded by travel? You’ve done it so much or do you still get surprised and amazed when you get off that airplane?

I get surprised every time. The word surprise has extra meaning because if you think about all of your travel experiences, nothing ever goes according to plan. The plan is the worst thing you could ever do. It’s the worst four-letter word other than other things. I remember I was on a flight going from New York to LA. It’s a 1:00 flight on Delta. I was sitting up in first class and I see all these maintenance guys come on the plane. I go, “What’s going on?” They said, “The front lavatory is overflowing. It’s not a good sign.” It was a 757. Speaking of duct tape, these guys go up and start duct-taping the floor around the toilet and duct-taping this. They said, “We’re all fixed.”

I happen to know that the plumbing on 757 is in line, which means that the front one is going to go, the back one is going to go. Sure enough, we pushed back from the gate. We get about 80 feet back. Someone else wanted our gate and they all start overflowing. At this point, they flew us to a marsh field somewhere in Queens and we’re not going anywhere. I know this plane is done for the day and suddenly they’re going to send out buses. I know the guys at the counter, so I called them. I said, “Let me tell you where I am.” He said, “Your flight said it’s departed.” I said, “I’m looking at weeds here in Queens. Can you get me on another flight?” They said, “We got one at 2:30 but you’ve got to get over to gate 59. We have a ticket for you.” I said, “Okay.”

All these guys with yellow vests were on the plane. I see one guy with an orange vest and they put up some portable stairs for the maintenance guys. I go outside of that, wave down. He came up and I said, “Can I ask you a question? They got me on another flight. They’re holding it for me at gate 59. Can you get me over there?” He was the guy who ran the ramp at Kennedy named Rocky. He said, “Hop in my truck.” I hop in his truck. He introduces himself. We’re driving 3 miles to get over to this gate. I’m on the cell phone letting them know I’m on the way. We have a great conversation because this guy has got the most interesting job at Kennedy.

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He runs the ramp, he sees everything. I said, “Rocky, your first name sounds like a bar fight written all over it.” He said, “Tell me about it.” We start talking and I get to the gate. I give him my card. I said, “Thank you. You saved me.” They had my ticket there. This time, it was not a first-class ticket. It was coach. This was the only seat they had. No problem. I got to get on the plane. Before I get on the plane, Rocky said, “Did you have any bags on the flight?” I said, “I had two,” because it was a Sunday. Normally, I FedEx my bags but on Sunday, you can’t. He said, “You have two bags on the plane?” I said, “Yes.” Now I go back to my seat, $35,000 on the last seat in coach with a window. I’m sitting there and now it’s time for the 2:30 flight to push back. We pushed back from the gate. We get about 80 feet from the gate and we stop again. All of a sudden, there’s tapping on my window from the outside. I look and it’s Rocky and a cherry picker going, “I got the bags.” We’re lifelong friends now. We’re Facebook buddies. We WhatsApp-ing. By the way, he’s one of my best sources because he knows. He sees everything.

If you could travel with someone infamous or famous, dead or alive, who would it be?

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Travel Tips: You’ve got to establish trust, and out of that trust, they’ll feel comfortable telling you the whole story or at least pointing you in the right direction.

 

It would have to be Leonardo da Vinci, only because people don’t realize who this guy was. I have a rule when I go to museums. If I’m in a city, I’ll go to only one museum because I want to spend the proper amount of time. I’m not going to hit the ground running and your eyes were over. I went to a museum in Montreal many years ago and they had done the most remarkable thing. They got Da Vinci’s notebooks and all his sketches and designs. They built what he drew. We discovered, “This guy invented the helicopter.” He just didn’t paint the Mona Lisa, “Give me a break.”

We’d like to close out episode by thanking Peter for his time. As busy as he is, we did feel privileged that he spent some time with us. If you’d like to learn more about or follow Peter, you can go to his website, www.PeterGreenberg.com. You can listen to his show, Eye on Travel. You can catch him on PBS and CBS. You can follow him on Instagram, @PeterGreenberg. Thank you, Peter. Please be sure to subscribe, rate and review on our show on your preferred podcast app by going to www.Destination-Everywhere.com. Let us know what travel advice you’d like to hear next time on the show. Safe travels.

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About Peter Greenburg

DE 18 | Travel TipsA multiple Emmy-winning investigative reporter and producer, Peter Greenberg is America’s most recognized, honored and respected front-line travel news journalist. Known in the travel industry as “The Travel Detective,” he is the Travel Editor for CBS News, appearing on CBS This Morning, CBS Evening News and CBS Sunday Morning. And his national CBS EYE ON TRAVEL radio show is broadcast from a different location around the world each week.
The consummate insider on reporting the travel business as news, Peter Greenberg hosts the public television show The Travel Detective with Peter Greenberg. The series offers 40+ half-hour episodes that seek to empower audiences with travel news, must-have information, insider tips known only to a select few, and hidden gem destinations not found in traditional guidebooks or brochures.
Travel Weekly named Peter Greenberg one of the most influential people in travel, along with Bill Marriott and Sir Richard Branson. He was inducted into the U.S. Travel Association’s Hall of Leaders for his contributions to the travel industry. Among his other honors, Peter Greenberg received a News & Documentary Emmy Award as part of the NBC News Dateline team for outstanding coverage of a breaking news story, “Miracle on the Hudson.”
Peter Greenberg began his career in journalism as West Coast correspondent for Newsweek in Los Angeles and San Francisco. He won a national Emmy Award for Best Investigative Reporting for the ABC 20/20 special on the final orphan flight out of Vietnam, “What Happened to the Children?” He also is the recipient of the Distinguished Service Award in Journalism from the University of Wisconsin, and an Excellence in Broadcasting Award from the Aviation Space Writers Association of America.
And when he is not reporting all over the world, Greenberg is an active volunteer fireman in New York.
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A Conversation with Emmy-Award Winning Travel Journalist Peter Greenberg, Pt. 2 – Travel Tips

A conversation with Emmy-Award Winning Travel Journalist Peter Greenberg, Pt.1 – Hidden Gems


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CBS Travel Editor Peter Greenberg shares his best-hidden gem travel destinations. From Egypt to the USA, learn the best travel tips and how to discover secret spots. He talks with Andy McNeill and Todd Bludworth on his career history, why he chose to delve both into investigative journalism and travel writing, and the advantage of disobeying signage. Peter also goes deep into why he prefers to travel to Thailand and Portugal should he be given a chance to get on a journey right now, as well his most memorable investigative journalism stories.

 

Todd Bludworth and Andy McNeill are travel and hospitality entrepreneurs and owners of the global meetings organization, American Meetings Inc. From sourcing hotels to corporate event management, their team sources corporate event venues and have a team of corporate meeting planners for their clients. They provide ideas for convention themes and how to run global meetings and events around the world. For more information go to www.mtgshealth.wpengine.com.

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Conversations With Emmy-Award Winning Travel Journalist Peter Greenberg, Pt.1 – Hidden Gems

We’re always trying to bring you the greatest guests. We have CBS travel journalist, Peter Greenberg. He is going to provide us his hidden gems, special places that he has been to all over the world, and does he have a resume. Todd, what are you looking forward?

I’m looking forward to know about his travels, specifically we’re going to talk about Rwanda, Portugal, Chile, Egypt, the Dominican Republic. He’s also going to share with us an experience about the pyramids in Egypt and one of his experiences about his best trip and how he saw the pyramids. I think we’ll take a lot away from that but looking forward to it.

We talked to Peter, and because of that he provided many great ideas. We are going to split this into two shows. There’s going to be a part 1 and 2. Let’s learn a little bit about Peter Greenberg.

I’m excited to speak with our next guest. He is a multiple Emmy-winning investigative reporter and producer. He is probably one of the most recognized faces and voices when it comes to travel. He has several projects. He’s got The Travel Detective, Eye on Travel radio show on CBS. He’s been on every network, PBS, NBC, ABC, CBS Radio. Welcome, Peter Greenberg. How are you?

I’m happy to be here and I’m happy to be anywhere.

I could have gone on for pages introducing you with your bio. It’s impressive. I’d like to start off with a little bit about your background pre-travel and how you got into this. Before I say anything, first of all, investigative reporting is the savior of the world, and thank you for what you do. It’s amazing what you guys do. I love hearing and watching it.

I’m still an investigative reporter. People always make the mistake of saying, “How did you make the transition from journalism to travel?” I go, “Stop right there. There is no transition. I’m an investigative reporter who has applied my techniques to the largest service industry in the world, travel and tourism.” It goes back to my days as a correspondent for Newsweek. I did a lot of investigative reporting there but not necessarily in travel. However, I was doing a lot of traveling. I was with the guy with a suitcase in the trunk of my car. I was the first at the scene of something. It dawned on me early on in my career that nobody was covering travel or transportation as news, they were doing breasted large women at the beach with a wineglass and thinking that was helping somebody and no.

What I did using my access as a journalist, and this is back on the West Coast in Los Angeles, I inserted myself in the process of travel. I trained as a pilot, as a flight attendant, loading baggage on a ship and in every aspect of the ship. The only I haven’t done is a train conductor. When I did that I realized, “How could I ever explain the product if I don’t understand the process?” That’s allowing me then to work with the guys at the NTSB on airplane safety, with the FAA, with all the mechanics and every single aspect of the process of travel from airplanes to ships, rental cars, you name it. That’s what I did and nobody was doing that then.

I started a column in the Chicago Tribune many years ago when nobody cared, but there was a travel editor there who took a chance on me. We put it on the second page of the travel section every Sunday. It was called The Savvy Traveler and we name names, good, bad and ugly. It started shaking things up because people were getting the information they could use as opposed to the breasted large women on the beach. We started from there, it went from 1 to 60 newspapers. I ended up then on ABC for seven years on Good Morning America, then fourteen years on the Today Show and for the last many years on CBS. It’s clear, I cannot hold a job.

Peter, we’re here to talk to you about a project that you have called Hidden Gems, which is right up our alley because we take our clients all over the world. We are always looking for special and unique things to do them for wherever we go. You’ve got an entire series about it. Tell us a little bit about hidden gems, where the idea came from, how it blossomed into what you’re working on now. We’d love to dive in and talk about some of these destinations or special things that you’ve found.

Hidden Gems evolved from another series that I’ve done for the last many years called The Royal Tour. It’s going to sound crazy but I’ve been doing this for many years. I go to individual sitting heads of state, kings, presidents, prime ministers and I get them to give me the impossible, seven days of their schedule devoted to me. They have no right of review, no editorial control. We take their people out of it. For the next seven days, it’s two guys on a road trip going entirely all the way through their country and it happens to be that one of them runs the country.

We’ve done it with everybody from the King of Jordan to the President of Rwanda to the President of Mexico, the Prime Minister of New Zealand. We’ve done many of them over the last many years. Inevitably what happened, we finished the show, we’d love it and they’d love it. The first time they would see it was when we premiered it. Nobody was allowed to see it because we were not going to get second guessed. We weren’t doing a postcard for the tourist board. We were doing two guys on the road and whatever happened happened. At the end of that, an interesting thing happened.

Many people within those countries would come to me and say, “You didn’t come here. You didn’t shoot over here.” We did Mexico. There are 32 states in Mexico and we shot six of them. I pissed off 26 governors who are saying, “You need to come back.” I figured, “Let’s do that. Let’s come back but we’re going to do it under my terms.” That’s how Hidden Gems started. We have a rule. If it’s in the guide book of the brochure, we’re not going. Number two, if there’s a gift shop, we’re not going. In fact, our second mantra is, “No gift shop.” If there’s a TripAdvisor logo on the window, we’re not going.

It’s unique stuff.

Not necessarily unique but authentic and genuine. The only time we’ll make an exception, I’ll give you an example, is if I was doing the Hidden Gems of Paris, the last thing you’d ever expect me to tell you is about the Eiffel Tower, unless I know the guy who goes in there every 8:00 at night and lights it up and I get to go with him, that’s a Hidden Gem. We can do that every once in a while if it makes sense, and also if it’s accessible to our audience. If it’s not accessible to our audience then I’m doing a bad version of the Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous and I should go home.

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Hidden Gem Travel Destinations: If you need information about a certain place when traveling, the first place you should go to is the fire department.

 

I love that you mentioned, “Accessible to the audience.” That’s critical. You don’t want to hang a carrot in front of somebody and then take it away.

That worked back in 1978 when Robin Leach was doing that show but he was traveling. Not to mention the pandemic but everybody is traveling and we know better now.

While you were doing those Hidden Gems, did you ever find yourself in dangerous or compromising situations?

I’ve been deported.

Which country deported you?

That was Guatemala. I’ve been thrown out of Guadalajara but that was many years ago. In fact, I’m going back to Guadalajara, I guess I’m okay now. I’ve covered a number of wars, whether it was the Gulf War or the revolution in the Philippines or stuff in Afghanistan. You name it, I’ve been there because I was doing all my hard stuff all along and that’s never stopped. You find yourself in dangerous situations but what you learn, if you’re lucky, it’s not where to go but we’re not to go. That applies to Cleveland, as well as to China.

You’ve covered wars. You’ve been doing this for many years. Have you been surprised at a place that was at one point inaccessible, war-torn, besieged that is now a tourist destination that you would take a vacation and go visit?

The first one that comes to mind is Rwanda. We all remember the genocide and how terrible that was. In one 30-day period, 1.1 million people were slaughtered. How did that turn around? How did that country survive let alone succeed? It’s an amazing story. We told that story when we did The Royal Tour of Rwanda with President Kagame. What an amazing story and what an amazing turnaround to this day is Rwanda. It’s a template for other countries to follow.

Tell us a little bit about some hidden gems in Rwanda, things that you’ve done or you would recommend for our readers to do if they ever get the opportunity to go.

This is not a hidden gem. You’ve got to go see the mountain gorillas. That’s one of the reasons why many people go there but here’s the hidden gem. You go to the local markets and you get on the back of a motorcycle and you hold on tight because that’s the guy who’s driving you, and he is fearless. When you go into the market, if you know where to look, there are the women there who are tailors and you pick whatever fabric you want and an hour later, you’ve got a shirt. It’s cool stuff like that. There’s a flourishing arts community there, cutting-edge artists.

If you go to the workshops, not the museums, you get to paint with them. How cool is that? I failed art in high school, so this is big for me. I’ll tell you the real hidden gem and this might come as a surprise to you. This applies not just to Rwanda but it could be Raleigh, Durham. I’m going to ask you the question and you’re not going to get the answer I guarantee you. Whenever I go anywhere you name the destination, the Dominican Republic or Denver. What’s the first place I stop where I know I’m going to get all the information I need about that destination from credible sources?

I would say a hotel concierge but I know that’s not the answer.

You are not going to go to the showcase showdown. Anybody else wants to guess?

How about a taxi cab stand?

No.

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You would say maybe an embassy but I know that’s not going to be too simple.

The last place I would ever go to is the US embassy. The first place I go to is the fire department. I’ll tell you why. They’ve been in everybody’s house, in everybody’s hotel, in everybody’s restaurant. They’ve been everywhere. They know where to go. They know where not to go. They also know where to eat. Those are the men and women who are your most credible sources and nobody figured that out yet. I figured it out because I’m also a fireman here in New York.

When we heard about it, you’re a volunteer firefighter in New York City.

I’ve done it since I’m eighteen and I’m on duty 3 days a week, 7 months a year but if you’re looking for great and nonpartisan sources of information, stop at the firehouse. It’s unbelievable.

How do they greet you usually?

First of all, they don’t necessarily know I’m a fireman. I’m stopping by to say, “Tell me this and that.” When they find out I’m a fireman then I’m on the truck and we’re having fun. The point is that’s not why I’m there. I’m not there to play with the toys. I’m there to learn. Unless there’s an alarm and they’re on a call, they can’t help but be nice to you and tell you stuff.

It’s a welcoming community. My brother was a fireman and they’re always open and they make you feel at home when you go into their stations.

If you’re looking for hidden gems, they know those too. The whole idea is I disobey all signage. That’s number one. If it says turn left, I go right because that’s where I’m going to find what I want to find. I do that at the airport too. I never leave from the departure level. I never arrive at the arrival level. Why would I do that?

In the US proper, what is the hidden gem that surprises you to this day?

It’s not one, there are many. One that I have a great fondness for and go back there every time I can is Madison, Wisconsin. First of all, nobody understands how great that state is. Second of all, here’s a city that’s not only the heartbeat of the university but it’s the capital of the state. It’s surrounded by four lakes. If you look at the map, it’s a beautiful natural hub to explore the entire state in one-day trips and you see everything. What you see which in the days I was acquiring stuff, now I’m trying to give it away. Within the days that I was acquiring stuff on a Saturday or Sunday, you go out there for the farm auctions. You see one owner of Ford Falcon from 1970 with 30,000 miles on them, buy that car. The reason why I love that show, American Pickers, is because that’s what I was doing. That’s the farm auction but it’s an amazing state and highly underrated.

If you could get on a plane tomorrow and pick a place in Europe, where would you buy that ticket for?

I would buy that ticket for Portugal. The reason is Portugal is the kingdom of a dead empire. If you ask the Portuguese, “What’s happening?” They want to talk about Vasco da Gama. You’re going to be okay. Their currency is devalued against the dollar. It’s a bargain. They’re incredibly honest and hospitable. The food is world-class. The fishing is world-class and if you want to have fun, go to the Azores, that’s where you want to go. It’s a time warp. It’s the best.

Are you staying in a hotel when you travel or do you get an Airbnb? What are your accommodations like?

I normally don’t do the Airbnbs because I need the infrastructure built-in because I’m working. I’m not on vacation. I need a good telecommunication system. I need good internet and good access to transportation. Normally I will stay at a hotel. Have I been in yurts and tents? You bet. Have I been in crazy igloos? Absolutely. In those days, they didn’t have any Wi-Fi. Now, they do. Normally, I’ll stay at hotels. Not only that, I want to go see if the hotel works. As a fireman, that’s the first thing I look for. What’s their fire safety system like? I then go through all the other parameters that you need to know about that most people don’t ask.

What about Asia?

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Hidden Gem Travel Destinations: Portugal’s currency is devalued against the dollar, the people are honest and hospitable, and the food is world-class.

 

That’s a no-brainer for me. That’s Thailand. I built and own a house there for many years in Bangkok, right on the river. You can’t beat that. There’s an old Groucho Marx saying, “I would never join a club that would have me as a member.” When I first landed in Thailand back in 1978 and I got off the plane, everybody was nice to me. I went, “They must be waiting for another guy named Greenberg to camp.” What you realize is it has nothing to do with you. It’s who they are. You get spoiled that you’re never happy anywhere else than you are in Thailand on every level. It’s the style, soul, grace of the people, food, architecture, history, antiques, rivers. I can’t get enough of it.

You’ve been there dozens of times. What are some of your hidden gems in Thailand?

My hidden gem in Thailand is that in 1994 when my house in Los Angeles was destroyed in the Northridge earthquake, it was leveled. It had to be bulldozed. I was given the opportunity, certainly not intended, to rebuild from scratch from the ground up. I figured, “I have an idea.” I took my architect and my contractor and I flew them to Bangkok. I had my house built in Thailand.

A reproduction of your house in LA?

No. It’s a brand new or a completely new design. It was all done there and then shipped to Los Angeles and rebuilt there. You can’t beat the workmanship. You can’t beat the actual materials and the style. What I did, here’s another hidden gem, I used the two years it took the build the house to go around the world when I was doing all my other stories. I built the interior of the house out of 47 hotels. Every signature item at a hotel that I saw, we’re not talking about the ashtrays, I’m talking about the pool, front door, even the doorbell, garage door, doorknobs, bathtubs, showers, faucets, each one of those came from one of the great hotels in the world that I love and said, “I have to have this.” I did, I brought it back.

I want to jump back before we leave because you talked about the Azores and I’ve always wanted to go and I’ve never been. I watched your piece on it and I’d love to know what your experience was there. You’ve probably been several times. I’ve heard special things about it because it is separated from the coast. Tell us about your experience there and what people could expect?

First of all, you’re right. It is separated. It’s another world. Turn the clock back about 80 years and you’re in good shape. You have 2020 technology but a 1960 lifestyle. To me, that’s the best combination. People are not in a rush. They’re members of every village. The food is incredible. What I loved about it and if you saw the piece, you saw it, I love their bullfights. They don’t kill the bull. It’s not really a bullfight. There’s no matador. It’s crazy. If you take a look at why those bullfights started that way, it was for the men to impress the ladies. That’s how they courted the ladies. Go back and take a look at some of the videos either that we shot or that were shot in some other bullfights, it gets wild but the nice thing is they don’t kill the bull.

With the hidden gems that you point out in some of your series, I highly recommend our readers to go and find Peter on YouTube. He’s Peter Greenberg. One of the things in your Egypt piece, you talked about the best time to go to the pyramids. Tell us a little bit about some secrets around that because it’s a madhouse for obvious reasons, but you had a great tip for people.

I disobey all the signage. I apply that to the pyramids, to the Taj Mahal, to the Great Wall of China. I can go on and on. Everybody says, “You can’t do that.” Yes, you can. I tell my guys at the hotel I want to hire a car and a driver at 3:30 in the morning and they go, “Why?” I said, “I want to go out to Giza.” “There’s nobody there.” I then call ahead and there were stables out there that had beautiful Arabian horses. You have to make sure that they had the horse ready for me at 4:15, I would get on the horse. Whoever was going with me got on the horse and we’d ride out into the desert. There we were at the pyramids. The 2 or 3 of us on the horse, watching the sun come over the pyramids, that’s the experience you want to have getting up early in Agra for the Taj Mahal or in Beijing near the Great Wall, because when you’re finished with that experience and you ride back into the stables, then you see the parade of tour buses with people screaming and yelling and you know you’ve made the right decision.

You talked about St. Catherine’s Monastery as well.

This goes back a long time. Someone said to me one day, “Why do you go and see St. Catherine’s Monastery?” This was many years ago. I said, “Sure.” He said, “Do you want to climb out?” I said, “Yeah, sure.” They neglected to tell me the monk who built it was doing penance for God knows what but it must’ve been bad because he made the steps 3.5 feet apart going up. Try climbing 3.5 feet steps. You do it at night when it’s cooler and I did it. I thought I was going to die but I got up there. It was an amazing moment to be up sitting there at about 4:35 in the morning as the moon was going down and the sun was coming up and there it was. There’s a monastery up there and it was amazing. I’m sure you saw it. We went back again in 2019 and shot it again.

That’s on top of Mount Sinai. Let’s go to the Dominican Republic. You’ve had some adventures in the Dominican. Tell us about it.

Did you notice that I was hanging out with the fire department? We went all over the place. I went to their favorite restaurant with them and in the truck, lights and sirens. It’s the only way to do it.

You got a free ride. You’ve done surfing there, ATV at Bavaro Adventure Park, the cigar factory. I saw a picture of you puffing on a cigar.

I was making my own cigar. This wasn’t the big cigar makers. It was a small family-owned place where you had the access to go in there with the guys who were doing it and learn how they do it, not because they demonstrated to tour buses. You asked, “Can I do it?” “Yeah, you can.”

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Do you go to the destination and let it happen organically? Is all of this pre-planned for you? How do you travel?

The only thing that’s pre-planned is I have to know from a production perspective where we’re going to be, how long we’re going to be there and what we think we’re going to do. After that, we take a shot. We’ve done our research, we know the history, we know who the characters might be. We know the stories that we might hear but there’s no guarantee of that. We always get surprised and usually in a pleasant way.

How many times have you gotten the hand saying, “No, you can’t come in here and do this?” You get more honey, what’s the saying?

Here’s the thing, you never ask permission, you beg forgiveness. Number two, my all-time big mantra is, “You never take a no from somebody who’s not empowered to give you a yes in the first place.” That applies to getting a telephone installed or getting the cable guy in or it applies to a quarter guard in Tibet. There’s always a way to do it. The way to do it, which I wish more people would do although they’re usually too afraid to do it is the big C-word. You need to have a conversation. Too many people go, “Can I go there?” The answer is no. First, you have to establish common ground, find out what they had for breakfast. What’s interesting to them? Learn from them and then all of a sudden they’ll go, “You want to come in? You’re in.”

I was going to talk to you about Oahu. Todd and I were in Oahu in Hawaii a couple of years ago, and that exact same thing happened. We ended up talking to a local who we were asking something and he told us about a great local donut shop that was known all over Oahu for. We never would have found that if we hadn’t stopped, taken time, invested in him and then he gave us that great gem and it was fantastic.

I have an admission. I have a little bit of an in in Hawaii because all my relatives are Hawaiian. When I go, I’ve been taking the back roads from day one off the grid and do know that donut shop.

I’m sure you do. It turns out it wasn’t a big secret. It was new to us and it was a nice find for us. You feel like it was a small victory of something that was a neat spot. Next time we go, I grew up at Hickman Schofield and I’m a brat. We went back and I wanted to take my kids to our houses. Sadly, I took no because I’m a civilian now that we couldn’t get on base. I should have taken your advice and found a way to get on that base with both of them.

Speaking of the conversation and speaking of Hawaii, I will tell you a story about how things work. I did a movie many years ago based on a story I did for Newsweek called Red Flag about an Air Force war game that’s realistic that people were getting killed. They’re still doing the games now at Nellis Air Force Base in Nevada. That was a two-hour movie we did for CBS. When that movie aired, I got a call from the US Navy saying, “We’d love to do a movie with you. What do you want to do?” I said, “I want to do X.” They laughed at me and they said, “It’s never been allowed. It’s never going to be happening. You can’t do it.” I said, “If I could do it, who would be the person to give me permission?” They said, “CINCPAC, Commander-in-Chief in the Pacific in Pearl.” I said, “Can you get me an appointment to go see the admiral?” They go, “Why? Are you going to fly all the way to Hawaii so he can say no?” I said, “Yeah.”

They gave me a ten-minute appointment at 9:00 in the morning on a Monday. I flew up on a Saturday. I walked in to see him. He could care less about me. I was told to have a meeting. He didn’t want to be there. It was an office the size of Grand Central Station. Everybody was in their dress whites. They didn’t want me to be there. It was like a courtesy call, give him a commemorative coin and get him out. This is the difference. You seek out common ground and I knew that I had maybe fifteen seconds to figure out what the common ground was. I got lucky because behind his desk was a photograph of a boat and it turned out I knew the boat well. I said to him, “Is that a Bertram 31?” He said, “Damn straight.” I said, “That’s the best boat they ever built.” He said, “You’re not kidding?” I said, “Let me guess. When you make a hard right turn, the engine cavitates and the water pump overflows?” He goes, “Yeah.” I said, “Here’s how you fix it. You’re going to do a bypass on the impeller.” We start talking like that and ten minutes later, the officer is going to say, “Admiral, your time is up.” He looked at me and said, “Do you got lunch plans?” I said, “I’m all yours.”

We go to the officer’s club. When that lunch was over, all hell broke loose in Pearl Harbor. All hell broke loose in the Pentagon because I was given the first top security clearance to go on a class about admission on an attack nuclear sub. When the Pentagon found out about it, they made the admiral go with me. It turned out to be fabulous because what was I doing at the time in addition to being a journalist? I was the head of television at Paramount. Now, go do your homework and find out what came after that.

The Hunt for Red October I’m guessing.

You got it. I had nothing to do with the movie. I allowed it to be made because they felt comfortable because they’d worked with me. I had nothing to do with the movie, except all the stuff you saw in that movie happened to us on that mission other than Sean Connery defecting.

That’s called chutzpah and luck.

If I’d walked into his office for that ten-minute meeting, he’s like, “Can I go on a sub?” “Get the hell out of here.”

I wanted to make sure that we hit as many different parts of the world as possible with your hidden gems. I think we’ve hit probably 7 or 8 locations. One area we haven’t covered yet is South America. Do you have any area of South America that stands out that you’ve been to? Could you give some great tips to our readers?

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Hidden Gem Travel Destinations: Thailand has a certain style to its soul, grace to its people, and magic to its architecture and history.

 

There are many but the one country that has it all is Chile. You take this little string bean of a country that comes down the left-hand side and they have the driest desert in the world, the Atacama. They’ve got the Andes, they got the Lake District out of Santiago and then you go down south and it’s Patagonia time, all the way down to the Antarctic. It’s amazing, I can’t get enough of that. There’s this little fishing village called Las Arenas, which goes down back to the early 19th century. If I could figure out a way to live there, I would. It’s great. Are there great places in Argentina? You bet. Are there great places in Brazil if they could ever get their act together? You bet. There are even great places in Paraguay but they never have gotten their act together, which is too bad. The real sleeper is Uruguay. That is a home run.

What’s funny is we took a Buquebus, a random trip from Argentina to Montevideo and ended up sitting next to a guy on that bus, a local. When we got off, he was our tour guide in Montevideo for the rest of the day. He was friendly and nice. You feel like, “Am I getting scammed?” They were

generally that nice. They were proud of where they’re from and they wanted us to see it.

How did that start? With the conversation.

We have some rapid-fire questions but before we get to that, I have a question about you as an investigative journalist, which I find completely interesting. You guys do correct a lot of injustice in the world, and the things that you uncover are groundbreaking. It’s a two-part question. One, what’s the story that you’re most proud of as an investigative journalist? The second one is regarding the travel industry. What have you uncovered about the travel industry that might help our guests maneuver the system a little easier? What should they be aware of that might be getting swept under the rugs when they start to travel?

It’s ranging from an investigative piece that I did on the death of Freddie Prinze, for those people who remember the story in the late ‘70s to investigating airline crashes on the worst aviation disaster in American history, American Flight 191 on May 25th, 1979 in Chicago. I was the correspondent, I did my fair share. I did all the Patty Hearst covers. I did almost all the Watergate covers and let’s not forget OJ. There is all stuff there that ranges from political to crime to crazy.

Do you get a tip from somebody? Is there already a story and you’re going deeper into it? How does it evolve?

It starts with relationships. I like to think of myself as a walking Rolodex. I can make the calls that will be taken usually not because of my sparkling personality, but because of the chair in which I sit. People don’t get this. It’s like me walking into the admiral’s office asking like, “Go on the sub.” That’s not how it gets done. You spend a lot of time not asking for it. The analogy would be how do you get an upgrade on a plane? You get to the airport, you see all these people standing around the counter like the scene from Midnight Express. They’re walking in circles and they’ve all asked the same question, “Can I have an upgrade?” The answer is, “No, get out of here.”

That’s not how I do it. What I do in normal times either in LAX or JFK, I will go out to the airport on a day I have no plans to go anywhere, zero. I will pick a terminal and I’ll walk the counters at a time they’re not busy like 11:00 in the morning and I get to know everybody. I talk to them about things that are interesting to them. Things I can learn from, establish common ground so that when something goes on, they call me. It’s not me showing up like I parachuted in and they don’t know me from a hologram. They do know me. That means every day, I wake up with a call list of 120 people and all those people, I can promise you 90 of them I have no agenda. I’m calling to say hi and check-in. I’m not asking for anything nor would I.

At the end of the day, what happens to those people when they’re doing their own psychological post-mortem of how their day was? They liked me better because I was the only person not asking for anything at all. People forget it. You’ve got to plant the seeds. You’ve got to establish your relationships. You’ve got to nurture them. You’ve got to establish trust. Out of that trust then they’ll feel comfortable if not telling you the whole story at least pointing you in the right direction.

That’s great information whether you’re an investigative reporter or traveling the world. Being able to establish those relationships

It’s the exact same behavior you apply to go to the grocery store. If I went into the grocery store and there’s the guy standing behind the fruit section, I go, “Can I buy oranges?” He goes, “Yeah, go ahead buy oranges.” If I talked to him, fifteen seconds later he says, “Pick that one.” That’s the one I’m going to pick.

I think we’re going to have to have a Peter Greenberg part two because there’s no way we’re going to get through everything. We do have our rapid-fire questions which we’d like to ask all of our world-traveling guests so our readers can get tips and tricks. Some of these are going to be hard for me because you’ve done so much, but let’s take a shot of it and then we’ll go. The first one is have you ever completed anything on your bucket list? I know the answer is yes. If so, what was it? What is the one that most stands out?

The one that stood out was when I was doing Red Flag, I got a chance to fly either right seat or backseat on about every plane in the Air Force inventory.

Have you passed out on one?

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They try to do it. In order for me to get certified to do it, I had to go to Kelly Air Force Base in Texas and get centrifuge training. You had to show that you can take at least 8 Gs. I took 9.5 G. I pulled 10.2 G in the plane. That was no fun. They had a bet on the ground as to what point I would throw up and I didn’t. The two-star general who was flying me let me take the controls and he threw up. I won the bet.

There’s an air show going in Fort Lauderdale. They always take a local celebrity up who ends up rolling their eyes behind their head and passing out. Hats off to you for succeeding.

I got a chance to fly the F4 to 5 to 15 to 16, 810, C-130. The one thing I’ve not done, you asked about a bucket list and this is the all-time greatest thrill ride ever and I’ve never taken it, I don’t think I’ll ever get a chance to do it. I’m going to give you three words and you know what I’m talking about, night carrier landing. That’s all I want to do. You couldn’t pay me to go on a rollercoaster. It’s not going to happen.

If you could live anywhere in the world for an entire year, where would it be?

It’s going to surprise you because I’m a New Yorker. I would probably pick Fire Island because that’s where I’m a fireman. That’s where I spent all my years since I’m six months old. That’s my beauty right there.

If you could travel with someone infamous or famous that’s alive, who would it be?

It would have to be Leonardo da Vinci, only because people don’t realize who this guy was. I have a rule when I go to museums. If I’m in a city, I’ll go to only one museum because I want to spend the proper amount of time. I’m not going to hit the ground running and your eyes were over. I went to a museum in Montreal many years ago and they had done the most remarkable thing. They got Da Vinci’s notebooks and all his sketches and designs. They built what he drew. We discovered, “This guy invented the helicopter.” He just didn’t paint the Mona Lisa, “Give me a break.” I can’t get enough of this guy.

You’re the first that has said that. What a unique and awesome one because he was one of the most incredible savants at that time. Next question, when you are packing for a trip, what is something that you pack that might surprise our readers?

Gorilla tape. It fixes everything.

The next one, what is your most memorable experience filming The Travel Detective?

I’ve made many friends that exist to this day. When I was a kid, and I’m sure you had the same experience with your parents, if somebody did something nice to you, the first thing my mother would say is, “Did you write your Thank You letter?” I didn’t pay any attention. I pay attention now. I write my Thank You letters and I keep in touch. When you keep in touch, the best memories that you have are rekindled every time you return because you’ve lost nothing in the process. You pick up right where you left off and you continue this conversation.

I love the Thank You letters. It was our twins’ birthday and they’re already getting their Thank You letters lined up to thank their guests. That’s a great tip for everybody to remember. Peter, do you get jaded by travel? You’ve done it so much or do you still get surprised and amazed when you get off that airplane?

I get surprised every time. The word surprise has extra meaning because if you think about all of your travel experiences, nothing ever goes according to plan. The plan is the worst thing you could ever do. It’s the worst four-letter word other than other things. I remember I was on a flight going from New York to LA. It’s a 1:00 flight on Delta. I was sitting up in first class and I see all these maintenance guys come on the plane. I go, “What’s going on?” They said, “The front lavatory is overflowing. It’s not a good sign.” It was a 757. Speaking of duct tape, these guys go up and start duct-taping the floor around the toilet and duct-taping this. They said, “We’re all fixed.”

I happen to know that the plumbing on 757 is in line, which means that the front one is going to go, the back one is going to go. Sure enough, we pushed back from the gate. We get about 80 feet back. Someone else wanted our gate and they all start overflowing. At this point, they flew us to a Marshfield somewhere in Queens. We’re not going anywhere. I know this plane is done for the day and suddenly they’re going to send out buses. I know the guys at the counter, so I called them. I said, “Let me tell you where I am.” He said, “Your flight is departed.” I said, “I’m looking at weeds here in Queens. Can you get me on another flight?” They said, “We got one at 2:30 but you’ve got to get over to gate 59. We have a ticket for you.” I said, “Okay.”

All these guys with yellow vests were on the plane. I see one guy with an orange vest and they put up some portable stairs for the maintenance guys. I go outside of that, wave down. He came up and I said, “Can I ask you a question? They got me on another flight. They’re holding it for me at gate 59. Can you get me over there?” He was the guy who ran the ramp at Kennedy named Rocky. He said, “Hop in my truck.” I hop in his truck. He introduces himself, we’re driving 3 miles to get over to this gate. I’m on the cell phone letting them know I’m on the way. We have a great conversation because this guy’s got the most interesting job at Kennedy.

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He runs the ramp, he sees everything. I said, “Rocky, your first name sounds like a barfight written all over it.” He said, “Tell me about it.” We start talking and I get to the gate. I give him my card. I said, “Thank you. You saved me.” They had my ticket there. This time, it was not a first-class ticket. It was coach. This was the only seat they had. No problem. I got to get on the plane. Before I get on the plane, Rocky said, “Did you have any bags on the flight?” I said, “I had two,” because it was a Sunday. Normally, I FedEx my bags but Sunday you can’t. He said, “You have two bags on the plane?” I said, “Yes.” Now I go back to my seat, $35,000 on the last seat and coach with a window. I’m sitting there and now it’s time for the 2:30 flight to push back. We pushed back from the gate. We get about 80 feet from the gate and we stop again. All of a sudden, there’s tapping on my window from the outside. I look and it’s Rocky and a cherry picker going, “Got the bags.” We’re lifelong friends now, we’re Facebook buddies, we WhatsApp. By the way, he’s one of my best sources because he knows, he sees everything.

Kindness goes a long way. Thank you for sharing that, that’s wonderful. Peter, where can people find you? You’ve got several projects. Where can our readers go to see, listen to you, your different shows and projects that you have?

Our website has the most imaginative name, PeterGreenberg.com. If you go on that website, you’ll be able to listen to Eye On Travel with CBS Radio Show. If you can’t find a station in your market, we stream it live every Saturday from 10:05 AM to 1:00 PM Eastern time. You’ll also find out what we’re doing, all of our projects on PBS, The Royal Tour or The Travel Detective or Hidden and CBS Morning or the CBS Evening News and on CBS Sunday Morning.

We will be watching. You’re an absolute joy. Thank you for sharing all these great gems and hidden secrets with our guests. We look forward to seeing you on the road sometime soon.

Hopefully, as we turn the corner, we will all be back on the road. As long as we behave responsibly, we will be.

We want to take you out to lunch or dinner when we make it up to New York. We wish you the best of luck and continued conversation. You’re fantastic. We enjoyed every minute of it.

Thanks. I enjoyed it too.

We’d like to thank Peter. He has been an amazing guest. It’s wonderful we’re going to have a second show with the rest of our discussion with him. Andy, what did you think about our discussion?

There are many great ideas. In the next episode, he’s going to do additional travel tips, conversations with people he’s met over the years, where to stop first when you go to a destination, his first recommendation and how to make personal connections that will change how you travel. We’re excited. I think there’s one more thing about The Hunt for Red October?

Peter has an interesting connection with the movie, The Hunt for Red October. I’m looking forward to knowing how he ties in with that fantastic movie. We will be ready for part two. Now, we’d like to close this episode and thank our wonderful team. Make sure to subscribe, rate and review on your preferred podcast app by going to www.Destination-Everywhere.com and let us know what hidden gems you’d like to uncover next on the show. Safe travels.

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About Peter Greenberg

DE 17 | Hidden Gem Travel DestinationsA multiple Emmy-winning investigative reporter and producer, Peter Greenberg is America’s most recognized, honored and respected front-line travel news journalist. Known in the travel industry as “The Travel Detective,” he is the Travel Editor for CBS News, appearing on CBS This Morning, CBS Evening News and CBS Sunday Morning. And his national CBS EYE ON TRAVEL radio show is broadcast from a different location around the world each week.

The consummate insider on reporting the travel business as news, Peter Greenberg hosts the public television show The Travel Detective with Peter Greenberg. The series offers 40+ half-hour episodes that seek to empower audiences with travel news, must-have information, insider tips known only to a select few, and hidden gem destinations not found in traditional guidebooks or brochures.

Travel Weekly named Peter Greenberg one of the most influential people in travel, along with Bill Marriott and Sir Richard Branson. He was inducted into the U.S. Travel Association’s Hall of Leaders for his contributions to the travel industry. Among his other honors, Peter Greenberg received a News & Documentary Emmy Award as part of the NBC News Dateline team for outstanding coverage of a breaking news story, “Miracle on the Hudson.”

Peter Greenberg began his career in journalism as West Coast correspondent for Newsweek in Los Angeles and San Francisco. He won a national Emmy Award for Best Investigative Reporting for the ABC 20/20 special on the final orphan flight out of Vietnam, “What Happened to the Children?” He also is the recipient of the Distinguished Service Award in Journalism from the University of Wisconsin, and an Excellence in Broadcasting Award from the Aviation Space Writers Association of America.

And when he is not reporting all over the world, Greenberg is an active volunteer fireman in New York.

 

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