Tuscany

Tuscany


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With its picturesque scale, architecture, wine, and Renaissance museums, there is a reason why Tuscany keeps people coming back for fabulous corporate meetings and much more. In this episode, Andy McNeill and Todd Bludworth introduce us to the author of the bestselling book turned movie, Under the Tuscan Sun, Frances Mayes, who shares her life-changing experience in Tuscany that inspired her memoir and some of her activities in daily life. Taking us beyond the region, she then shares her new book, Always Italy, a travel guide to all 20 regions in Italy. Without missing the best part of the trip, Andy and Todd then sit down with Federico Cerelli, a teacher for Italy’s National Organization of Wine Tasters, who takes us to learn the art of winemaking—from how best to test it to which ones to try.

Andy McNeill and Todd Bludworth are travel and hospitality entrepreneurs and owners of the global meetings organization, American Meetings, Inc. From sourcing venues in Tuscany, to corporate event management around the world, their team selects corporate event venues and meeting planners for a wide array of enterprise business clients, providing ideas for convention themes and strategies for running global meetings and events. Learn more at www.mtgshealth.wpengine.com.

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Tuscany

Author Of “Under The Tuscan Sun” Frances Mayes Offers An Exclusive Italy Travel Guide, And Learn The Art Of Winemaking With Federico Cerelli

A picturesque region people just can’t help falling in love with, it is no wonder why many always go back to Tuscany. From its rich history and architecture to the food, it is simply a great travel destination that offers everything to all kinds of travelers. Andy McNeill and Todd Bludworth guide us to this great Italian region with no less than the very people who know it like the back of their hands.

First up, they sit down with the bestselling author of the book turned movie, Under the Tuscan Sun, Frances Mayes. Here, she first tells us the story and the life she lived that inspired her memoir. She also talks about her latest partnership with National Geographic and her new book, Always Italy—a travel guide that covers all 20 regions in Italy.

Back in Tuscany, Frances reveals the whole secret of the region, taking us to back roads and small villages to discover it in a whole new way. She also names some of her favorite food and wine and some of the best seasons to go in each place. In her daily life, Frances shares what she typically does in the morning and what her writing process looks like. Her top must-see activities and must-visit places are:

  • The Piazza Life
  • Tuscan Sun Festival
  • The annual horse race (Palio di Siena)
  • San Gimignano

Moving us along to one of the top activities that no one should miss when in Italy, Andy and Todd then interview Federico Cerelli. Federico graduated in the year 2000 at the Università degli Studi di Firenze with a degree in Enology and Viticulture with a maximum score of 110/110. Since 2005 he has been a member of the official commission of DOCG Chamber of Commerce of Florence and Siena, and since 2008 he has been a teacher at ONAV classes in the Florence department (National Organization Wine Tasters).

  • With his years of experience in prestigious Italian wineries, Federico offers us some valuable wisdom to learn the art of winemaking.
  • On properly testing a wine, you must take note of the following:
  • Follow the suggestion in the back label of the bottle
  • For red wine, open at least an hour before drinking
  • For aged wines, melt the cork and check the cork
  • Check the color
  • Close your eyes and try to understand what you’re smelling
  • Put in your mouth and try to spread out the wine in all parts of the tongue

Check the after taste to measure the complexity of the wine and how long you feel its sensation in your mouth

Federico then recommends some of his favorite wine in Tuscany:

  • Sangiovese,  the King of Italian red wine
  • Chianti wine
  • Chianti Classico wine

What is more, Federico also gives us a tour around Castello di Gabbiano, showing us what they offer for all wine lovers who want to bask under the Tuscan sun along vineyards, great architecture, and good food. He then gives a brief overview of Florence. He says to visit in April to August, enjoy the medieval village around San Miniato al Monte, and visit the best cheese producers in the area.

Closing with their bucket-list, here are some of Andy and Todd’s must-see, must-taste, and must-do items that should make your Tuscany itinerary:

  • Florence’s rich fashion history
  • The Vasari Corridor and The Uffizi Gallery
  • The antique market at Arezzo Viera
  • Palio di Siena
  • Sicily, Sardinia, and Elba
  • San Miniato
  • Nessun Dorma Manarola: Cinque Terre
  • Piazza dei Miracoli
  • Chianti Classico

Follow along to this great episode as you take a stroll under the Tuscan sun with really great food and wine in your hands and just enjoy the piazza, Italy’s daily life!

About Frances Mayes

DE 25 | TuscanyFrances Mayes recently published “Always Italy,” which won the Lowell Thomas Award for best travel guide of 2020. Previous bestsellers include “See You in the Piazza,” “Under the Tuscan Sun,” “Bella Tuscany,” “Every Day in Tuscany” and “ Year in the World.” These books about travel, taking chances, and the “voluptuousness of Italian life” have been translated into 54 languages.

Mayes has written the memoir “Under Magnolia,” and the novels “Swan” and “Women in Sunlight. She and her husband divide their time between North Carolina and Cortona, Italy.

About Federico Cerelli

DE 25 | TuscanyFederico Cerelli graduated in the year 2000 at the Università Degli Studi di Firenze with a degree in Enology and Viticulture with a maximum score of 110/110. Since 2005 he is a member of the official commission of the DOCG Chamber of Commerce of Florence and Siena. In the year 2006 attended a master for “winemaking process and sensory analysis of high-quality red wines” at the Facultè d’oenologie, Universitè Victor Segalen Bordeaux 2. Since 2008 he is a teacher at ONAV classes in the Florence department (National Organization Wine Tasters).

Federico joined CDG in the year 2011 after 10 years of experience in prestigious Italian wineries with the responsibility and the supervision of important winemaking projects, especially in Tuscany and in the Chianti Classico wine region.

Federico brought his intense knowledge and passion to CDG; his continuous research for quality and innovation is a great asset for the winery.

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Kenya

Kenya


 

Want to plan a safari and visit Keyna, in East Africa? We’ll discuss Kenya tourism, things to do in Kenya, and how to prepare for a trip to Africa. In 2017, Kenya was recognized for the World Travel Award for Place to Be. As the world’s leading safari destination, there is no other place to go see a safari if you want to see what you see on National Geographic. Aside from the safari, there are also other great experiential Kenya destinations to check out — like their amazing beaches and the second-largest barrier reef in the world, as well as famous tea plantations. Getting excited about going to Africa? Andy and Todd bring on Lara Vancans and Monica Irauzqui to walk you through the preparation.

Andy McNeill and Todd Bludworth are travel and hospitality entrepreneurs and owners of the global meetings organization, American Meetings, Inc. From sourcing meetings in Kenya to corporate event management around the world, their team selects corporate event venues and meeting planners for a wide array of enterprise business clients, providing ideas for convention themes and strategies for running global meetings and events. Learn more at www.mtgshealth.wpengine.com.

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Kenya

The fact that Toto’s song, Africa, still plays in karaoke bars across the US to this day, demonstrates the draw to the wild that Africa offers. As sure as Kilimanjaro rises like Olympus above the Serengeti, adventurers and travelers migrate to the area like wildebeest and for good reason. We are joined by Lara Vancans, National Director of Sales for Sanctuary Retreats, to learn more about the luxurious camp, Olonana, privately located on the Maasai River. We’ll also learn about Monica Irauzqui, a private tour operator, who shares how to prepare for an African Safari. Whether you’re attracted to the popular Maasai Mara, the more secret Selous Game Reseserve or the energy and vibrancy of local African culture, East Africa is rich with once in a lifetime experiences. Whether you want the tourist experience or the world’s less travelled, we will be sharing our best tips for an African Safari. Welcome to this episode, Kenya in East Africa.

We are talking about Kenya in East Africa. It’s one of my favorite places. It’s so incredible and an amazing place to take family, friends, co-workers and corporate clients. It is one of those places you want to go back to over and over again. In 2017, it was recognized as the World Travel Award for Place to Be. It’s the world’s leading safari destination. There is no other place to go see a safari if you want to see what you see on TV and National Geographic.

Everybody thinks of safari when they think of Kenya, but there are also many other great experiences that you can check out. They have beaches, and you don’t think of beaches when you’re in Kenya. They also have the second-largest barrier reef in the world. It’s 140 miles long. It’s far away from where we’re talking about for safari, but it’s amazing. What we’re going to focus on is mostly going to be in the part of the Maasai Mara, which is the northern part of the Serengeti. The Maasai Mara is in Kenya and the Serengeti is in Tanzania, where you do have the views of Mount Kilimanjaro, which is spectacular.

I’m so glad you mentioned all the other things that you can do like the beaches. Another thing is the famous tea plantations. It’s the second-largest form of foreign income to the country because they export so much tea. The plantations are beautiful and they take you back in time. It’s definitely worth your bucket list if you’re going to Kenya. Don’t forget about those. We’re going to have several great guests to talk about how to plan a safari. It is one of those things that you do need extra help with. It’s not jumping on a plane and going to the country. There are lots of things to know and prepare when you go to Africa. We’ve got some great experts to walk you through that.

We are going to be talking to our next guest, Lara Vancans. She’s the Director of Sales for Sanctuary Retreats. One of the ones we’re going to focus on, they have several, but we’re going to be looking at the glamping of the Olonana property.

We are here with our guest who is one of the most interesting people. We’re going to find out a bit more about her amazing background. We have Lara Vancans, who is the Director of Sales for the Americas for Sanctuary Retreats. Lara, thank you for joining us.

Thank you for having me.

I want to start off right away. You’re a Brit who lives in Miami but you’re in LA. You’re representing Africa and these amazing properties. I read that you studied African Studies and it was at Oxford. What got you involved in that and why was that appealing to you? You’re probably one of the only people that’s using their major in their career these days.

Having a degree in African Studies is not a pre-requisite to working in travel but it definitely helps and it keeps you engaged. How did I get into all this? To be honest, the answer is I was lucky. I had parents that loved to travel. I had parents that prioritized and were fortunate enough to be able to give the gift of travel to me, my brother and my sister. The whole Africa thing for me was tripped when my parents took us to Africa when I was about twelve. We went to Southern Africa. It was a big milestone for my family at the time. They did this big trip and they took us to Cape Town. They took us on safari. We still talk about that trip. It’s the coolest thing we ever did and I still hope I can do it for my kids. For me, it sparked this obsession and as life coursed, it rolled on from that.

One of your first jobs while you were in school was with a safari company. Is that correct?

Yes, it was. The first safari job I had was working for Micato in New York when I was a freshman in college at NYU.

How did this path lead you to Sanctuary Retreat?

It was actually a speeding ticket that led me to Sanctuary Retreat.

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That’s a good story.

I ended up meeting Anna Pinto whose family owns Micato at comedy traffic school.

Everyone has the same story.

I went to a comedy traffic school. It was not funny.

You did get a career out of it.

I was lucky. I just graduated from high school, I was super excited. All my friends went to college and I was staying behind because I was going to Africa. This was my thing. I was saving money. I was working in a hotel. I was just chatting and talking to this woman I’ve never met before. She casually whips out a brochure and says, “Funnily enough, I work for a safari company.” Little did I know it was Anna Pinto, whose family runs Micato. It turns out she knew my mom. A few months later, I was in Nairobi with her family and they took care of me. They were incredible. That was how that started.

One of the things I love most about our portfolios, we’ve got these twelve camps and lodges across six different countries and are all in spectacular bucket list locations. Ngorongoro Crater, Victoria Falls, in South Africa, and the Okavango Delta. We hit all of those bucket list destinations. We do it and we provide unique experiences. The lodge that Todd is sitting in front of, Olonana, that’s a unique experience. If you go to Sanctuary in Tanzania, it will not look like that. It’s also beautiful. We maintain the same commitments to standards of excellence, the way we take care of our guests and the environment, the way we work with local communities, but your physical accommodation experience will be ideally localized and unique to that area.

That’s important for Africa because you do go and you get different experiences wherever you go. It’s a diverse place to go. You can go multiple times and have completely different experiences.

The kind of traveler that’s looking for the adventure at the level that we offer and no shade to a brand chain. I only go to the same hotel in the States when I traveled for work because I’m confident. When you go to Africa, you want something different and new everywhere you go.

We talk about often enough, it’s a bucket list. You don’t want it to be the same. You want to be spoiled, you want luxury, especially when you’re in Africa. There’s a fine line between the luxury of the accommodation versus the complete wilderness of the African countryside. It’s a great switch, the contrast of that just by walking off the property is amazing.

That conversation of luxury in Africa and everywhere, but because that’s what I work on, it’s an interesting one because sometimes the luxury is being closer to nature and taking away some of those creature comforts. Olonana is over the top, everything you could want, pools, air conditioning. Sometimes, in different locations, luxury can be interpreted a bit differently. In Tanzania, for example, some of our camps are a little bit more pared-down. They’re still beautiful and comfortable but they’re a bit closer to nature, which is a different kind of luxury.

Tell us a little bit about your Kenya property since we’re focused on Kenya and what your guests can expect.

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If you’re traveling through Sanctuary Retreats lodge in Kenya, at the moment we have Olonana, which is one of our first properties ever. If you travel with us in 2021, we’ll have another one.

Where is that?

That’s going to be in an area called Laikipia, which is north of Nairobi in the Ol Pejeta area. That will offer a different experience because it’s an activity-focused property and you’ll be able to pair them. If you or your client is looking for that ultra-luxe property, it feels like a family when you arrive. It’s run by a guy called Maurice, who’s been there for over twenty years. He worked his way up from tent attendant to manager. Our properties might be luxurious and at times expensive, but they’re not pretentious. They’re relaxed and accessible.

For the Olonana, when someone steps out or when they leave the property, where are they going to go? Is it safe to walk off the property by yourself? Where is it located and what’s around the property?

Olonana is unique in that it’s located right on the Mara River. The Mara River is that famous river that you see in all the National Geographic images when all the wildebeest are crossing the river. They don’t do that right in front of our lodge, but we do have hippos that walk up and down with their babies. There’s a lot of action right from the lodge. It’s pretty cool.

When the migration happens, you said it’s not right in front of you, but do you arrange tours to go see the migration up close?

Of course. When you stay with us as part of your experience, you’re doing two safaris a day or two game drives. You go out early morning and then you’ll go out late afternoon. We go into the Maasai Mara National Park. That’s where we’re doing all of our drives and it’s about a ten-minute drive to one of the closest crossing points.

Do you arrange the safari yourself? When someone comes and they’re like, “I’m going to this property,” is it all in-house? Do they need to contact outside suppliers to do different things or do you keep that in-house?

The experience is all-inclusive. We would always recommend booking with a safari tour operator, an expert, someone that can put the whole package together for you. Once you’re with us, once you get dropped off, we do have two different rates. It gets a bit confusing, depending on who’s reading and who’s interested. You can actually come into some of our camps with your own driver. Maybe your tour operator brings in their own driver and then they do your safaris. Most commonly, we do our own. We have our own guides, our own vehicles and you’re going out every day with us.

Lara, tell me about taking a group. Do you have a lot of groups that come?

We do. That’s going to become even more popular. The multi-gen family thing was on the rise.

Multi-gen family, for our readers, like corporate incentive, is that something that you see as well?

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Because our lodges are small and intimate, Olonana is one of the bigger ones. I have a group of 36 travelers soon.

Is that the max?

Our lodges range from 6 to 12, 13 rooms. Sometimes, we’re out of the running for those bigger groups. The room that Todd is sitting in front of is the Geoffrey Kent Suite. We only completed that last when we rebuilt the lodge a couple of years ago. That’s a two-bedroom unit. It’s completely standalone. It’s got its own staff, its own driveway. It’s got two main master bedrooms and then a pit. In this era that we’re in, that standalone villa concept will be unique.

Tell us about the Kenya property.

We’re excited to be opening another property in Kenya. It’ll pair beautifully with Olonana. It’s called Sanctuary Tambarare. It’s located in Laikipia, which is to the north of Nairobi. It’s a different experience. We’ll be on the Ol Pejeta Conservancy and the Conservancy is run with a huge focus on conservation. It’s cool and lots of things that will get you out of the vehicle. It will be a permanent tented concept. We were talking about those different accommodation experiences. It will still be a high level but different experience to Olonana.

Do you have pictures of what these tents are going to look like? Are those already up on your website?

Yes, we’ve got some renderings. Give us a little leeway because renderings never capture the spirit of it but you can get a good sense. They’re clean lines, elegant, quite large but not over the top, nothing crazy, beautiful tents.

How many?

There would be ten.

Let’s talk a little bit more about your personal experiences in Kenya, specifically. What are some things that you’ve done or that you’d recommend people do once they’re outside of your property? Obviously, the primary focus will be safari and going out on drives and staying at the property. What are some other bucket list items in the area that you would recommend?

One of my favorite things always, and one of my favorite things about doing this job and working in this industry is getting to work with the community and working with our philanthropy team and hearing about what they do and all of that. I love telling those stories. We work quite closely with a few local schools in the Mara. We made a promise a few years ago, our commitment that we would provide access to clean drinking water to all schools on the edge of the Maasai Mara. We did that and we’ve moved that project down into Tanzania. That was a partnership with an amazing organization. You can go to one of the local schools if you’re interested and you can meet one of the prefects that take care of the LifeStraw filter in the school. Not for too long because you can’t take them out of class for that long but you can see firsthand the impact that clean water has on some of these communities. That’s definitely one. Balloon safari over the Maasai Mara.

I’ve got to do that.

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Another one to do is breakfast on the plains of the Mara. We’ll set up a beautiful picnic set. That’s incredible. The Mara is about driving. Don’t just go out in the morning, throw lunch in the back and do a full drive and go down to the border of Tanzania. It’s stunning.

The charitable travel where you go and you do something to give back to the community that you’re visiting is great. It’s great to know that you can do it through Sanctuary. That’s fantastic.

Everybody is interested in meeting with communities and it’s great for us if we can talk to people beforehand and say, “What is it that you’re interested in?” If someone is interested in giving or doing, we can organize something that is both beneficial for the client and for the community. A lot of times, you get thrown into activities of that saying, “Paint the wall.” We work hard to find things that work for both the client and the community.

It sounds like a beautiful place. We might have told you about our rapid-fire questions for every guest that we have. We like world travelers like yourselves to communicate to our readers about certain things about how to travel and get some tidbits from you guys. The first one is, have you ever completed anything on your own personal bucket list? If so, what was it?

Before the craziness of 2020, I got to go to Laos. That was big for me. I got to go to Luang Prabang with my mom. That was amazing. That was definitely a bucket list item for me.

I know you’ve been all over the world. If there’s one place you could live for a year, where would it be?

This one makes me emotional. I left my two siblings in Edinburgh. They’re both starting degrees in Edinburgh. It’s not the craziest location, but that’s where I’d be at the moment.

It’s a beautiful place with a great history there. If you could travel with someone infamous or famous, dead or alive, who would it be?

I would pick Christiane Amanpour. I like to get into the nitty-gritty of geopolitics.

She might take you to a warzone though. You’ve got to be careful.

Not that I want to be following that train, but if we were safe and figure out all these things. She’s fascinating and brilliant.

It would definitely be a bucket list experience.

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If she has a glass of wine, I’m sure she can at least loosen up.

When you’re packing for a trip, what is something that you pack that might surprise our readers?

One thing that I pack that other people wouldn’t is I have my grandmother’s travel wallet, which I always bring with me. It always has both my passports in it. That’s whether I go domestically or internationally because you never know.

That’s a sentimental one.

I can’t think of anything else more intriguing.

When you go to Kenya, you’ve been multiple times, what has been your most memorable experience?

My parents had taken me to Southern Africa when I was young. A couple of years ago, my brother and I got to take my parents back because my brother was living out there. To take them back to Kenya and show them a part of Africa that they hadn’t been to, that was cool. One day, I remember we broke down and our guide had to change our tires in front of a pride of lions. It was heart-wrenching. He looked cool as a cucumber. I had the whole thing on video. That was one of those fun things.

Were you in an open vehicle at the time with a pride of lions?

Yes.

That’s definitely memorable.

It was as a heart-racing moment.

Can I ask one more question? What is the craziest request you have gotten from a client? The most out-of-the-box thing and you’re like, “I don’t know if we can do that.” Do you do have an example of one of those?

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“Can you get the fly out of my room, please?”

Are you kidding me?

Yes, I’ve had been asked to do that before. That was a fun one, “Can you measure the distance between the tap and the wall, please?”

The water tap?

Yes. I had to measure the space between the tap and the wall because that was important for this person.

That’s crazy.

Lara, we appreciate it. Where can our readers find more information about Sanctuary Retreats, website, social media handle?

Social media is @SanctuaryRetreats. Website, SantuaryRetreats.com, it’s all that. They can reach out to me on my email.

I recommend that all the readers go to the website and look at some of these properties. It will definitely get your imagination going. They’re stunning. They’re beautiful. Thank you for joining us, Lara. We look forward to seeing you in Kenya or one of the other amazing properties soon.

Me too. You guys have to come out.

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It is time for our bucket list for Kenya in East Africa. There are many things to do there. It was hard to pick and get it down. We had 30 of them and we had to get it down to ten to make sure we had time for all of them. We have some great ones for you. These are great bucket list ones to do with your family. A lot of people use the safari or trip to Africa as a once in a lifetime family trip, and all of these are great ones that you can do with the family, with the kids, grandparents or everyone in between.

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The first one is fantastic and it’s been going on for years. It’s watching over baby elephants at David Sheldrick Wildlife Trust. It’s best known for its orphan project of taking in orphan elephants. It’s a full-time orphan rescue and rehabilitation program. It’s been the most successful one in the world for years and years. It’s open every day to the public from 11:00 to 12:00. You have to plan for it because they want to be respectful of the elephants’ space. You can experience feeding the orphan elephants, and seeing them taking mud baths. The baby elephants, everybody remembers Dumbo from way back when. Imagine a lot of them doing it at the same time. It must be incredible.

That’s something I’ve always wanted to do especially if you’re an animal lover. They always say elephants never forget. You do it once, you go back and the animal’s much bigger. Maybe they remember.

There are a lot of sanctuaries out there and there’s this one, and they’re peppered all over this area because it is a major issue from climate change to hunting and poaching. It’s important that we take care of these beautiful animals and these people are doing wonderful work. When you go there, you’re supporting their efforts. We highly encourage you to make it part of your bucket list when you go to Kenya.

I’ve got another item which is the place to do it. I’ve done it in other places, but in Kenya by far it’s probably the most spectacular and that is a hot air balloon safari. You could go at sunrise or even at sunset. Sunrise would probably be a little better. You do see the entire country starting to wake it up. You go over the plains and the rivers and the views of Kilimanjaro. It’s amazing and you see why they call it the Maasai Mara, which Maasai is the indigenous tribe, and Mara means spotted in the native language, which is spotted for the landscape. Also, the ride with a champagne brunch somewhere with armed guards around you because you don’t want to surprise any of the wildlife.

Suddenly there’s an elephant or a rhinoceros down the road. It’s definitely something that you want to plan for. It’s pricey, but it’s well worth it. Here’s another great one. You usually don’t think about going to a restaurant when you go to Africa, and this one is in a cave. It’s called the Ali Barbour’s Restaurant. You walk down 33 feet into a 180,000-year-old cave and they serve local seafood dishes. It is unbelievable. The cave has an overhead opening to view the night and the stars. Doesn’t it sound like something out of a movie? All the elements are kept to keep the cave in its natural state. The only lights besides candles are coming from the kitchen and the bathroom. This is something that I highly recommend and something that is definitely a once in a lifetime experience.

Another one that I selected, and I had no idea that East Africa is one of the largest exporters of tea. I found this extremely interesting because I never thought about tea when I think of East Africa.

It’s pretty incredible.

Being located so close to the equator, the soil is rich and the high mineral content produces teas with much higher antioxidants. The Rift Valley and Mount Kenya are great places to go to some of the tea plantations. I would definitely do that if you do have the time.

When you go to these plantations, a lot of them are kept in pristine condition like they were back in the day during the great trade. You see how the plantations were run, and also get to experience, some of them, the process of making the tea. It was a fun experience and something that’s unique to the area. We always love to do things that are unique to the places that we go to. The next one we have is experiencing a traditional Maasai village, which you can-do all-over Kenya, but you can learn about the medicines, the plants, their traditional dancing, and see an actual village from a day-to-day perspective.

This is something that is a lot of fun for the kids and you want to do it with your family. You’re usually accompanied by a guy that educates you about not only the tribe, but the area of where the tribes are living, how they live off the land, and what they make from the land. It’s one of those educational experiences that can be a lot of fun and something that you can put on either the beginning of the end of a safari trip.

Another one I remember from when I was a kid, we watched a special on the Maasai Tribe and the red cloth that they wear and the reasons that they do things. It’s a unique tribe in Africa, but their story is pretty amazing and their way of life hasn’t changed much in decades. If you have a little need for speed and you don’t mind heights, you could go zip line through the Kereita Forest. They do have amazing views. There’s a canopy, they also have mountain biking, team building activities if you’re there with a group, but you could do all this in this unique environment. Who doesn’t like to zip line? It does give you a thrill.

We always end up at zip lines when we travel.

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It’s because they’re fun. They’re fun for kids and some of them are insanely high. Others go a little bit lower so you’ve got a little better view of the ground. Who wouldn’t want to do that?

I’ll never forget that one in Northern Quebec that we did. They hung you off the side of a mountain before you went on the zip line.

I opted out of that part. The rock climbing was enough for me, but the kids loved it. They gave me a heart attack.

Speaking of family taking there, this is something my cousin has done. She has hiked Mount Kilimanjaro all the way up to the top. It’s the world’s tallest freestanding mountain and it is Africa’s tallest peak. It’s one of the world’s most famous Seven Summits. First of all, you have to go to it and get a picture in front of it. It’s one of those bucket list things, but there are all different types of hiking there. It’s not only for going to the top, which is for an experienced hiker, but there are lots to do all the way around. If you’re going all the way to the top, you need to go with an experienced guide.

There’s significant training involved in doing that. There are different ecosystems that are involved in the hike, which is cool. You have the rainforest, the desert, and you’ve got an arctic climate. It’s something that when you start off, by the end, you’re going to be in a completely different environment, which is cool.

It is much more doable than going to Everest. As you can see by the picture, you can see a view of it from Kenya and it’s beautiful.

Talking about more experiential items, who wouldn’t go in and embed themselves in the culture for a short time? You could do a day trip to Stone Town Zanzibar and it experienced some local food and the food markets.

The gardens are amazing.

They have open-air markets and rich seafood. They do octopus and lobster claws. You get freshly squeezed sugarcane juice with ginger and lime, which is amazing. You get the highly recommended Zanzibar pizza. It’s a thin crepe topped with your choice of meat, vegetables, cheese and another crepe. You definitely want to try to fit that in your list if you do want to blend a little bit with the local culture.

Here’s one, I have never skydived. I’ve figured that the grounds are enough for me wherever I go. The one time it’s going to be me that’s not going to open up so I never skydive. It’s one of the few things I haven’t done in my life.

It’s like YouTube skydive mishaps right before a trip.

It’s not what you want to do but if you are into it, there’s one that’s amazing that we came across that I did want to mention. It’s skydiving above Diani Beach. Why it’s so special is because as you’re skydiving over a coral reef and you get to see it from both the land and the sea, so it’s incredible. You can even get a glimpse of the Shimba Hills National Reserve Park on a clear day, which is far away from the beach. Being near the coast and experiencing that, would be a great bucket list thing to do while you’re there.

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Another thing is these are all targeting an outdoor traveler. It’s a good activity and something I know I would love is scaling the gorge at Hell’s Gate National Park. You could do that for about two hours to walk there, scale it and come back. It was the popular background for Tomb Raider: The Cradle of Life featuring Angelina Jolie, which is neat.

Todd, you need to start searching all movies for every location we go to. That should be your thing.

I don’t know why but I feel if I’ve seen it in a movie, it’s been legitimized. It gives me a fantasy around that location. I completely agree. I’m always fascinated by movies, movie locations and why they picked them. There’s always a reason why they picked him and there’s a reason why they picked this one for that particular movie. You could go there and you could walk through these water eroded walls. They’re so narrow that you have to squeeze through them and you could find waterfalls and hot springs. If you have that itch to get outside and do something a little different, that’s the thing to do. Those are ten of our bucket list items.

We took it down to 30, but we thought these ones were special and ones that you could do them across generations, not all of them like skydiving with me. There will be lots of things you can do with your family, friends, co-workers, depending on who you go with.

Our next guest is Monica Irauzqui. She’s with Yampu Tours. We’re going to look forward to what she has to say.

In this episode, we are featuring Kenya. When you think about Kenya, you think about the safari. We’re excited to have our next guest. We have Monica Irauzqui, who is the Vice President and Cofounder of Yampu Tours. Welcome, Monica.

Thank you for having me. I’m excited to talk to you about Kenya.

Likewise, we like to feature these bucket lists items. Bucket lists can go to the moon but something you almost always hear people is safari. Who doesn’t want to go see nature at its finest especially when you think our time is getting limited with these types of spaces and events? Do you go and stay in a hotel and go on safari during the day or do you pack the gear, set up camp, and have a nonstop safari? If that’s the direction you go, can you tell us a little bit about the accommodations that someone can expect to see on a Kenyan safari with your group?

For the most part, I sell tented camps in Kenya. The camp is set in one place. There is such a thing when you’re following the migration and that camp moves from place to place depending on where the migration is. That’s another option for those people that are set on seeing the migration. I normally sell more mobile camps in Botswana. That’s the one where somebody is packing up your stuff and resetting it somewhere else.

When is the migration? Is that a certain time of year?

The migration is July through September, for the most part. It changes from year to year, so we have a calendar and we can watch where they’re going. For the most part of the Maasai Mara, they’ll probably be there in August. The Maasai Mara is where the river is if you’ve ever seen a river running through the bush. The wildebeest will be crossing the river and there’s a big show because the gators try to get them. That’s the pool.

How many times have you been to Kenya?

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I’ve been to Kenya four times.

What’s your absolute best experience there so far? Do you have one?

I love doing the balloon over the Maasai Mara.

You just hope the balloon stays up.

These guys are professional. They came from South Africa and they were super knowledgeable about what they did. We got up at sunrise and went into their camp. They put us in a balloon, start the fire and the balloon goes up. They turn it over and you go up in the air and you watch the sunrise over the Maasai Mara. The Maasai Mara is the same park as the Serengeti. The Serengeti has a more famous name. You’re watching the sunrise over the Serengeti, and all these animals waking up and running around.

That’s a bucket list experience for sure.

You’re playing music from The Lion King. You hear the calling. It sounds amazing.

They served us champagne breakfast when we landed.

Are you guaranteed to see the top five or the big five? The things that everybody wants to see like a lion, an elephant or a giraffe. What are the big animals that you’ll see on one of your tours?

The big five was a term coined by hunters and tourism took it over. I would say that you’re definitely going to see at least four of the five. The rhinos are part of the top five and they’re harder to see in Kenya. I saw a rhino in Tanzania. If a client wants to see a rhino, we’ll put them in the place to get that to happen but you’re going to see a lot of lions, cheetahs, leopards, giraffe, elephants, wildebeest, zebra, ostrich and baboons. It’s going to be amazing the amount of animals you see. It’s way more than the big five.

This is a bucket list trip. Can you give some advice on how people can prep to go because it is the trip of a lifetime, but there’s also a lot of preparation that needs to happen? Can you give us some advice and also how do you assist in making that happen?

The first thing you should do is find somebody like me that’s knowledgeable hopefully about all of Africa so they can help you narrow down which country you can go to. You need to ask them certain questions. You need to let them know certain things that are in your mind. You need to let them know what your imagination of Africa is. Depending on what is in your imagination, I need to make that happen and each person’s idea of Africa could be different. I want to know that. I want to know what vehicle you want. Do you want to fly? Do you want to do open vehicles? Do you want to drive in a closed vehicle where you pop your head up is something that feels more secure to you? Do you feel comfortable with a tented camp or would you prefer the safety of a lodge? For all these things, you need to find somebody that can answer all those questions for you. I would say that make a list of things that you want, question the person that you’re talking to and see if they know the answers. If they don’t, that might not be the right person. If they’re too busy to be bothered to answer your questions, that wouldn’t be the right person.

The second thing is you need to get your inoculations and do some research about the best malaria medicine for you. I have a blog on my website. It has some links to the hard to find places on the CDC website. There’s one that’s a great table that goes through all the malaria medicines, the pros and the cons. Each area might have a different type of malaria, not all medicines will work for that kind of malaria. All this is on a cute little chart that’s impossible to find on the CDC website, but I’ve got it on my blog. It’s important to know what medicine you need before you go talk to the doctor. Because if you are in a rural area, for example, where not many people travel, your doctor may not be mindful of all the side effects.

What particular one for what particular country.

It’s good to know what you think you want before you go in and the doctor can look at all your medicines and make sure that’s right for you. That’s one thing that I would say. For packing, you need to get a light suitcase because a lot of times we do those little planes from camp to camp. You need one of those Columbia soft-sided, very light that weighs a pound. I have suitcases that weigh 14 pounds and that’s pretty much the limit, so you can take one of those. You need a soft bag and you need some basic colors. They do laundry for you in these upscale camps so you don’t have to have a different outfit for every day.

Speaking of lodges, I understand there’s a Giraffe Manor and this is a once in a lifetime experience for people if they can even get it because it’s so popular. Number one, have you been? Number two, if you haven’t been, have you heard about it and what should people expect if they go?

I went and did a hotel inspection in Nairobi, so you’re going to land in Nairobi. If you’re booking in advance, try to book it. It’s cool, the giraffes are running around on the property and many times if you’re on the second floor, I had a client who I put on the second floor and the giraffe put their head in. They’ll come and visit you while you’re eating breakfast. It’s an amazing place. If you don’t stay there and if you book last minute or your group is too big and you can’t get space, you can go to the Giraffe Center, which is next door. It’s on the same property. You can visit those giraffes. They’re special. They’re the Rothschild’s giraffe.

What is the Rothschild?

The Rothschild’s giraffe is a different breed of giraffes and there are not as many of them, so they’re unique.

Another question we get, especially when people travel outside of their comfort zone in general whether it’s Europe, South America or Africa, what can you tell that nervous traveler? They want to go on safari and you’re in this bubble, flying to Nairobi and getting with your crew that’s going to be taking them on safari, what can you tell them to alleviate those fears or misconceptions they might have?

I want people to be prepared. What I normally do is go over everything with them. What to expect when they’re in the camp, in their rooms and go over some of the rules that I’ve experienced while I was on safari. When you go to a camp, the manager will sit down with you and say, “These are the rules.” For example, you can’t leave your tent at night. Should you need to leave your tent because most of them won’t have a phone there, so you’ll have to take a flashlight and wave it around and somebody will come if you need something. I go over all these things. What happens if somebody needs a doctor? What’s going to happen? The more informed the traveler is, the more secure they’re going to feel when they’re there having all of these things, going over all these things. Is there a shower in their room? Do they have to go outside and shower? It’s all these things. It’s great to go over everything so they don’t get somewhere and find a surprise.

What are some giveback opportunities? You said someone has a great experience they want to give back to the country? Do you have any recommendations on how they can do that?

When a client wants to do some give back, what we would normally do is there’s something called Pack for a Purpose. A lot of the lodges that we work with also work with Pack for a Purpose. They’re supporting a community or maybe they’re supporting a school and it could be as simple as filling up a bag with some stuff that they need and taking it with you on your trip and leaving it with them. Maybe they need pencils, sharpeners, pads of paper, markers or whatever that they need. I’ve had one client who was a specialist in glasses. They took glasses with them and adjusted them for the whole community while they were there. We can get creative. Sometimes if you have time or you want to make the time, we can have you go and visit the community that you’re helping and spend some time with them and get to know them. It’s always great to get to know people of a different culture.

You mentioned Samburu. Is this a tribe in Kenya?

Yes. They’re the happiest people. When I arrived in Samburu, they came and greeted us. They were smiley and the warmest and kindest people. When somebody wants to do a cultural interaction, since they were my favorite, I usually try to include some Samburu. Samburu also has its own special five animals that are different that you can only see there. For example, they have a zebra that has stripes the other way. They have this giraffe that has a different design on his body, the reticulated giraffes. They have this animal called gerenuk. It looks like a deer that thinks it’s a giraffe and it stands up to eat like giraffes do. It’s got this long neck. It stands and looks like a tiny giraffe. It’s famous, and you can only see it there. I hit two birds with one stone by sending people to Samburu, and it’s also great for elephants there.

What are some of the most memorable reactions your customers have had, ones that popped out in your head when you’ve taken them on one of these safaris?

They’re excited about the special experiences like we’ll do breakfast in the bush or a walking safari where they can go out and walk with the guide. That’s exciting and lots of adrenaline doing that.

I can imagine.

One client was excited about horseback riding safari. They love horses and I was able to get them into one property that has some horses and can do a safari on horses. That’s unique for a safari. One client was dying over that.

What a great suggestion. It’s once in a lifetime. I’ve never heard of that.

I love the breakfast in the bush idea. That sounds a lot of fun to me.

It’s fun to have a picnic out in the bush and the guides are there. It is special.

Thanks so much for your time. You’ve been to over 60 countries. That’s amazing. We ask each one of our travel experts our rapid-fire questions and these are questions so our readers can learn from the experts about once in a lifetime bucket list and what they do when they travel. The first one is, have you ever completed anything on your bucket list and if so, what was it?

I wanted to go white water rafting for years. I wanted to do it in Costa Rica, but every time we went, the kids didn’t weigh enough. We finally went white water rafting in Colorado. They’re adults now so they weigh enough. My daughter barely, but yes and it was fun.

Where did you go out of? Do you remember?

It was near Estes Park.

If you could live anywhere in the world for a year, where would it be?

Tuscany.

I would agree with that. I’ll join you.

There’s so much to do around there. There are many different places to visit. I’ve been to most of them, but I’d love to go again. I’d love to get into every nook and cranny of Tuscany.

You definitely would need a year for that one. If you could travel with someone infamous or famous, who would it be?

There’s a saint, her name is Amma and she’s the hugging saint. She goes around the world and gives people hugs. I love the fact that there’s somebody whose life goal is giving people happiness.

She’d be fun to take out for sure. When you’re packing for a trip, what is something you pack that may surprise our readers?

I have this cashmere throw that goes over my head and it doubles as a blanket on planes. I can have it in my purse and throw it on when you get cold. Sometimes if I’m going on safari, I’ll bring some fuzzy slippers because when you go out for the campfire at night, it gets a little bit cold, so having some warm fuzzy slippers could be fun.

Finally, what is your most memorable experience in Kenya?

I could tell you a miserable memory. I was in this camp and my son was about twelve and the rule is you can’t walk by yourself at night, but in the day, they let them do that. My son was on the way to his tent and a snake crossed the path and he went closer to see what it was. The kids came back and told me and I asked the camp director, and it was a Spitting Cobra. That’s a big memory for me.

I’m sure for him too.

It’s been a life lesson because I tell everyone that travels with kids, “Whatever the manager says, keep the kids with you all the time.” He wasn’t a kid. He was a teenager but still, the teenager sometimes doesn’t have that wire for danger. He turned out to be a Marine, so he doesn’t have that wire for danger. That memory for me is something that I tell every client, “Keep the kids with you all the time. Even in the day, stay close.”

It’s definitely the most memorable experience. That’s for sure. I know you’re offering a giveaway for our followers that sign up and it’s a $100 gift certificate to Yampu Tours. Thank you so much for that.

You’re welcome.

If you want to sign up for that, readers, go to Destination-Everywhere.com. Where can people find information on you? I hear you got this great Instagram account. Should they go there? Should they go to your website? Where do you want them to go?

Go to our website, Yampu.com. You can find out about me and all the countries we sell. If you are an Instagrammer, look me up on Instagram, @MonicaIrauzquiExperiences. I am engaging with my followers every day sharing our travel stories, all our passions and loves for travel.

Monica, you are certainly a travel expert. Thank you so much for taking us to Africa, teaching us about Kenya and the other countries. We look forward to seeing you there sometime. Thanks for coming.

Thank you for having me.

Thank you, Monica. Take care.

We’re glad to have you here. We’re visiting Kenya in East Africa and it’s been a great show. We’ve had great guests. We’ve talked about these unbelievable bucket list items. Lara was talking about how she had come with her family when she was a kid and coming back. A lot of people talk about this as being a once in a lifetime experience when they go. I certainly felt that way but you need to plan for it. You need to get with an expert, understand the regimens around vaccines for it as well as planning way ahead of time because of weather and when the droughts are versus when the rain season.

Also, when the migration is. It depends on what you want to see. That is going to dictate when you go.

Between our guests and the bucket list ideas, we provide some great ideas, some great venues and hotels to go to so there are lots to do. Todd, of all the ones we talked about, what is the one thing that you want to do when you go to Kenya?

Without a doubt, safari but that aside, Lara talked about participating in some philanthropy while you’re there and incorporating that into your trip.

You’re right and that can be life-changing especially for kids.

Some of these villages have nothing, but they don’t realize it, but they need school supplies, clean water and things like that. You can incorporate a time where your family goes and participates in something special for another group of people. That’s either with them or with the animals. You talked about the orphan sanctuary for the elephants. I don’t know how they are about having seasonal volunteers come in because there is a system.

Most hotels or out packing groups will have relationships already set up for you, so you can ask them, “We would like to do this. What are some ideas around our hotel that would be good and we could spend that one of our days doing this?” It’s a nice break from all the touring as well. You get to see real African life and get to meet some great people as well. I’m glad you reminded us about that because it’s one of those things that everyone should do and make sure it’s on their list of things to do. I personally would want to hike Mount Kilimanjaro even if I didn’t go to the top so I could say I hiked Mount Kilimanjaro. You need to have that thing that you want to post like, “I hiked Mount Kilimanjaro.” We have a friend that everywhere she goes she hikes a place and it’s all over her Instagram.

I’ll be back at the Olonana relaxing, getting ready for the next day safari. There’s also the Great Migration. If you time that right and see nature at its fiercest but at its most beautiful, why wouldn’t you do that? It’s something that happens for hundreds and hundreds of years, and we hope that it continues to happen for hundreds and hundreds more.

All of these great bucket list items are at Destination-Everywhere.com. We want to thank everybody for joining us for this episode.

We would also like to thank our team for the extra help that they give us. We have Chris Jordan, our copywriter, Guy Quattlebaum, who is our content developer, Annie Fernandez, our creative director, and the amazing Lauren Campbell who is our podcast producer. Make sure to subscribe, rate and review the show or visit us at www.Destination-Everywhere.com and give us your feedback or any program ideas and we’d love to hear from you. We look forward to seeing you next time. Safe Travels.

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About Lara Vancans

DE 8 | Kenya And East AfricaLara Vancans has had at least one foot in the hospitality industry for about 15 years now. At 16, she started working as a front desk and events manager in a smaller local hotel, and as freshman in college she had her first job in the Africa space working with Micato Safaris in NYC. With an undergraduate degree in Anthropology and a Masters in African Studies, she has lived in and studied quite a bit in South Africa. In her free time, Lara loves to bake, explore vegan recipes, read fiction, study Spanish, travel, and connect with my friends around the world. Fun fact, she is also a certified Scuba Diver.

About Monica Irauzqui

DE 8 | Kenya And East AfricaMonica Irauzqui is the Vice President and co-founder of Yampu Tours and YampGo, starting the company 21 years ago with her husband. Monica has been instrumental in creating a “client first” culture at Yampu Tours. The Mantra of Monica and her team at Yampu is to create lifetime relationships with their clients. Tours are one hundred percent customizable to your whims and wishes, and the Yampu team thrives to stand behind you to ensure that everything goes according to plan – your plan. Monica and her team create realistic expectations for their clients through knowledge and expertise and customer service.  They know the product and the countries they work so well that they can match client interests and expectations for the perfect tour experience.

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Copenhagen

Copenhagen


 

Copenhagen hotels and the best time to visit this amazing city are shared as we explore traveling with sustainability in mind to this destination city in Denmark. In this episode, Andy and Todd take us to Copenhagen, Denmark, with Peter Høgh Pedersen, the Managing Director of Villa Copenhagen, and Kasper Eich-Romme, the co-founder of GoBoat. Copenhagen is great in that it is compact, with beautiful and colorful buildings and great food… on top of being a world leader in sustainability. Peter and Kasper walk us through the many Copenhagen charms and share more inside knowledge about the city that no travel books can provide. Join this episode as we marvel into the beautiful, walkable, and compact city of Copenhagen.

Andy McNeill and Todd Bludworth are travel and hospitality entrepreneurs and owners of the global meetings organization, American Meetings, Inc. From sourcing meetings in Copenhagen, to corporate event management around the world, their team selects corporate event venues and meeting planners for a wide array of enterprise business clients, providing ideas for convention themes and strategies for running global meetings and events. Learn more at www.mtgshealth.wpengine.com.

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Copenhagen

When you think of Copenhagen, Denmark, you’re probably thinking of historic colorful buildings lining the canals, or possibly The Little Mermaid statue that sits just in the water off the shore. You’re probably not thinking about a foodie’s paradise. If you’re a fan of oysters or want to visit the world’s best restaurant, or one of the city’s fifteen Michelin-star eateries, this is the place to visit. Considered one of the happiest places on Earth, Copenhagen values ecofriendly living. We sit down with Peter Pederson, the Managing Director of Villa Copenhagen, to discuss how hotels can implement best sustainable practices. What better way to see the city than from its harbor. We will also be speaking to Kasper Eich-Romme, Cofounder of GoBoat, a solar-powered sustainable boat rental company. Architecture, music, good eating and the simple uniqueness of Copenhagen are why it made our list of favorites. After this episode, we hope you will add it to your travel bucket list as well. Welcome to this episode, Copenhagen.

We are excited to bring to you one of our favorite cities in Europe, Copenhagen, Denmark. One of the places we’ve been in many times, and there’s a reason we’ve been there many times. It is such a great city because it is compact. You can do a lot in a short amount of time. If you’re looking online, it’s one of the most beautiful cities in Europe with all the colorful buildings and great food. Todd, what are your thoughts?

What you’re describing is Nyhavn. It’s probably one of the most photographed places in Copenhagen. I’m sure most of our readers have seen it. They also call it the world’s longest bar, because at the bottom along the waterway, it’s all bars and restaurants. In fact, we did a group dinner at a restaurant right along at one time, and it was probably some of the best food I’ve had.

The thing about Copenhagen is it is a great walking city because it is compact. You can do so much in such a short amount of time, you can also see it from the water, and it’s a completely different experience. It goes on the top of people’s bucket lists that are backpacking across Europe. You have to stop in Copenhagen and experience it. It’s easy to get in and out. The airport is right there. You can jump in and get straight into the city and it has a great feel.

There are a couple of other things I don’t know if people know about Denmark’s capital city, but it’s one of the leaders in the world for sustainability. They have pushed to create an environment that is sustainable, whether it’s wind power, solar power, and this has to do with their vehicles and their boats. You’ll see it everywhere and you’ll notice it everywhere.

You’re also going to learn a lot about that from both of our guests, about sustainability, their businesses and how they use it. It is part of the culture there, which is fantastic.

They’re also the world’s happiest people that live in Copenhagen. That’s according to The World Happiness Report, and they say, “Happiness is linked to many things,” but they say social equality, community spirit, education without tuition, public health and apparently, they’re doing something right. We have a lot of great guests and we’re going to go into a little bit more about Copenhagen specific. Our first guest is Peter Pedersen. Peter is the Managing Director of Villa Copenhagen. We’re going to get his perspective on the hotel side and find out what his guests look for and what they can expect if they go to stay with his property.

I’m here with a special guest from Copenhagen. We have Peter Pedersen, who is the Managing Director of the Villa Copenhagen. Peter, thank you for joining us.

Thank you. It’s great to be here and thank you for having me and Villa Copenhagen.

Tell us a little bit about your background. Where did you come from? How did you end up at the Villa Copenhagen?

I’m probably one of the old school coming from the kitchen through the restaurant and made myself up, added some studies along the way, became hotel general manager for the first time in 1999 in Stockholm, Sweden with a company called Radisson. I ventured out in the world, Hilton in Egypt. I went to Asia with them, opened a hotel or a resort for Banyan Tree in China. I went from there straight to Nigeria, Africa with InterContinental. I opened a nice InterContinental in Davos, Switzerland for The World Economic Forum, and then spent three years being on my own as a self-employed consultant to the industry until somebody thought it was a good idea to bring me home for the opening of this one here in Copenhagen. I never thought I would come back home again. I think my mom gave up hope also.

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Copenhagen: The young people want to be part of an employer who is doing things right or at least showing some serious attempt to do so.

 

We should mention that you are a Dane. Your entire career was outside of Denmark and now, you’re home. That’s what he’s referring to. Does it feel good to be home close to your mom?

Denmark is a fantastic place. With the destination I listed for you, the comparison is even more striking. I’m happy to say that I think Scandinavia is probably the safest.

It was the happiest place to live in the world.

We are spending a bit on this in the hotel concept as I will coming back to. We’ve seen a lot on CNN and BBC about the happy Danes. Despite the tax burden and the heavy showers and all this, we’re still okay.

You have Malmo on the other side of the bridge. It’s different but the proximity to you is wonderful. It’s cool to get both fields, but Copenhagen is amazing. For people who’ve never been, it’s historical and the architecture, people and food are amazing. Your hotel has a philosophy of sustainability. Tell us a little bit about that.

We’ve converted an older central post admin or mail administration. I’m sitting in a building that is inaugurated the first time in September 22, 1912. The building turned 108 years. It’s 390 rooms, 25,000 square meters. It’s a huge property. We wanted to have a boutique-hotel feel to it. How do you do that? How do you create that anticipation of something that is rather more intimate, a bit more casual, still luxurious and raising the expectations of something more individual?

We thought Villa was a great way to do that. Immediately, people will think about something that is smaller than 390 rooms. We want it to spin on that a little bit, we were back and forth, and some people were saying that’s because I spent three years in Italy with Villa Borghese and Villa Pamphili and all these things in Rome. There was maybe something there, but I thought it was important for us not to use the hotel world because there are many hotels here. We have Radisson, local chains, Marriott, Hiltons. You have the usual palette of international or regional operators. We thought we wanted to try to set ourselves apart from all of that and redefine some of the principles of luxury hotel industry. To cost big building Villa, it was a naughty start.

You have a philosophy of conscious luxury. Tell us about that.

Conscious luxury is in a Danish way of defining luxury. The expression less is more, your plate might not be overloaded like some places that were around where you are living. That doesn’t mean we don’t get enough to eat. We do. It’s about building a luxury hotel in a world where we don’t need more opulence. How do you go about that? The biggest carbon footprint saving story we have is the conversion of the building itself.

You have that building from the ground up.

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Some engineers calculated the footprint for me and he said, “More than 80% or almost double of what you’ve done.” Trying to add all this technology inside, starting from our rooftop lapping pool, which we can heat up to 30 to 40 degrees Celsius and up to 90% of the energy used for the heat procedure is coming from excess heat from our centralized cooling systems. I found out that sustainability is on everybody’s mind here. It’s something that you have to have some strategy to document around to engage with the right level of customers and professional companies like medical and pharma industry here and other big operators, so that they check that you are doing things right and you check that they’re doing things right. Over and above that, it became obvious to me that the young people that we want to employ, they want to be part of an employer who is doing things right or at least showing some serious attempt to do so. It was both a branding story to go out with it and an employer branding story, but it’s also the right thing to do.

Are you in one of your rooms?

I’m in a corner suite.

Tell us a little bit about what in the room plays into that conscious luxury?

For some of the outfittings, we’ve done a classical interior design here that replicates a classical upscale, Copenhagen urban apartment in the classical older buildings, Centennial building. We put in oak herringbone floors because they literally last forever if we treat them right. We’ve done some designs in the furniture that has a Scandinavian feel to it, but we’ve not gone overboard. We don’t have any extreme coloring that’s out of fashion in eighteen months.

They had to redo over and over again.

We have built the hotel with 300 rooms, but only about twenty bathtubs. We don’t have the luxury of bathtubs. We don’t think that people check into a hotel to sit in the bathtub. We’d rather have a nice shower.

It is much easier to control the water usage as well with that.

Down to some of the nitty-gritty, we are not putting on top of the minibar two plastic bottles of mineral water saying, “This is complimentary of the hotel.” We put a little brass tray with the two glasses and a corral. We have a little note in the room saying, “It’s okay to drink the water from the tap in Copenhagen. Go ahead and do that. There will be a bottle of one in the minibar.” Some of those things are a conscious luxury for us.

If you have the discerning guest, what do you guys do or what have you done to go over the top or to make their experience amazing at the property? Do you have any examples of where you’ve got a picky guest and they’ve asked you for something that you don’t know if you could deliver on, but you do anyways?

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We tried to be personal in our approach. We have picked all our staff in a recruitment procedure where everyone had three interviews and the last one was with me. Pre-Corona, we were at 180 employees which is quite big for Copenhagen with such a heavy payroll burden as we have. We probed all the staff on the conscious luxury part and asked their own philosophy and what they do at home to be a little more sustainable than maybe the average. Above all, it was important for me that everybody lived in and around Copenhagen, if they were indeed commuting on the bridge from Sweden which many of them are, I wanted to make sure that they were in love with Copenhagen whether they are Danes or like me or Swedish, German, British or Italian. We have many nationalities working here and most of the people working here like living in Copenhagen.

We want to have that inbuilt Copenhagen concierge. The little mermaid you can find blindfolded and maybe even Tivoli which is right across the street from where I’m sitting. The little quirky shop down in east together where two Swedish guys have made a little shop that are selling hats, boots and they have a bourbon bar at the back. You’re not finding those or the little Mexican breakout chef from Noma who have opened middle tapas bar at the bottom of east together also where you have to pass all kinds of homeless prostitutes and all this to get there. That whole mix and match of things is what you get when you have staff who are living that in their daily life. They can point you in the right direction. I think that can exceed the expectations of a guest who is looking for something different.

That brings me to my point about your concierge, like those recommendations that you mentioned off the beaten path, those things that the locals do enjoy is your concierge. Could you describe the concierge philosophy? If someone comes and asks for something, are you going to send them this way which tends to be the more popular, safer? Are you going to send them this way, which tends to be walking in those neighborhoods and checking out the locals? Tell us a little bit about your concierge and then how they make recommendations in the area?

Happiness is one of our three values. You ask a little bit about that, but now we’ve covered conscious luxury a little bit, which is the one in the middle. Happiness is the last one. It reflects us working here as Copenhagen knows, being a Dane Copenhagen or Swede Copenhagen, never mind, because if you live in Copenhagen, you are a Copenhagener. I want them to tell the guests the recommendations that they have, not the top five that we have listed, because as a group thing, they are the cooler thing to go. They should tell the guests where they would go for that beer after work or where they would buy that piece of furniture that is done with the upcycling wood and whatnot. Find that designer or that little popup or startup ice cream shop, where these boys found that out of the brown bananas, they can take the sugar out and they can make ice cream. I want to send them to places like that.

That’s what makes it special. One thing I’d want to hit on is your executive chef, speaking of your staff, is it Tore Gustafsson? I was impressed by reading about him. Tell us about him and his philosophy because it definitely feeds into the overall philosophy of the hotel. I also want to know about your rooftop garden.

Tore is a Swedish chef who had been around the bush for a while. He worked in Stockholm. He’s quite famous in Sweden and was in Denmark also. He’s been the head chef or the executive chef of a place called Paté Paté down in the meatpacking district, which is around 300 to 400 meters walk from here. His philosophy is about giving food daily. In Sweden, you call it the who spends cost, which is your daily plates giving them a turn and twist but more so making sure that you’re following the local seasons. You will not find a pineapple salad on our menu because there won’t be a pineapple anywhere near this hotel. He can venture out when it comes to flavors and spices. He likes to say that his cuisine is Southern European with flavors from the Northern part of Africa as well. That’s what he is tapping into and succeeding. Most business are sharing these dishes, much of it is based on vegetables. Two people will have maybe five small sharing dishes. You’ll not have a big piece of meat. You can get it. He has a signature dish which is a long-roasted half head of a pig. You can leave the dinner table there and then you say, “That was great. I’m full and I’m good. We barely had any meat.”

You’re still full and that’s okay. It goes to sustainability as well.

When we have meat and fish, we make sure that we know the food chain from where it’s coming.

How about the rooftop garden? I hear you have honeybees as well.

We have put in a green roof on top of the big ballroom, which is 1,200 square meters. It’s called sedum roof and it’s all little things that are growing and survive. It’s a green garden and the honey bees are finding their way there. For the spring season, we’ll have a collaboration with somebody who is doing rooftop being around Copenhagen and we are going to tap into that. By then, the chef will have pots of Rosemary and other stuff going on up there also. Right next to it, we have the 25-meter lapping pool. It’s a green oasis in the middle of the city.

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That’s definitely a thing to come and see. Anybody can go up there and enjoy the garden. We’ve got a picture of that on our website.

The three courses, you said happiness, conscious luxury. What was the third?

Contrast. It’s making a brand-new hotel in an old building and wanted to be seen as having our roots in the local neighborhoods, being Copenhagen, but with an outlook on the world and having international standards. Our “way” is about having a different kind of interior designs. I’m sitting here in there in a classical Scandinavian looking, smelling feeling room and then we’re down in isolated contrast where the brick walls are laid all bare. On the other side of the hotel, looking at the more classical part of the Copenhagen we have original wood paneling and boardroom where we barely did anything but restored it nicely. You have new and old. You have different kinds of designs.

We’ve been challenged by somebody who said, “Where’s the red line?” That’s where contrast is neat to have because we don’t have red lines here. We don’t do lines at all. We like the contrast. We like the number of experiences that you have going through the place and the way we dress and the team that we employ are from all walks of life, foreigners, locals. I’m from the province way far out of Copenhagen, some 100 kilometers. I’m not a Copenhagen out to the core of myself, but I am now because I live here. We open to everybody and try to speak diversity and live by it also.

We’d like to talk about bucket list items and the hotel being one, go in and stayed, but if you talk to a guest and you’re like, “You have to do this while you’re in the city.” What would you recommend based on your personal experience that they do whether it’s a restaurant or a fun activity? You and I talked about Christiania, which to me was an amazing experience. I don’t know if it’s for everybody, but I loved it.

I’m an outdoor person. I think you should explore some of the harbor front which in some areas, they cleaned up from an industrial harbor to recreational places. On the far end of the picture, that used to be where we had the Marine and everything. It’s a bit rougher on the edges. Street food markets are coming up there. Some old ship walk buildings are being turned into entertainment places either for late-night, salsa dancing, wall climbing, repelling and anything in between.

There’s also a great World War II museum.

A functioning part of our Marine is still over there. The greens or the king’s ship or royal’s ship is mostly docked over there. Also, you can go there with a hover bus so you can pass in the canal boat. There is CopenHill, which is a huge plant where they’re burning garbage and reusing the heat from that back into central heating, and on the top of that building, they’ve made a green skiing hill.

What’s the green skiing hill use, roller blades or roller skis?

You are using skis, but it’s on a slippery green map that you’re skiing down, and there is a little lift bringing you up.

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There’s a bucket list for you.

Skiing clubs in Denmark are queuing to train there knowing that we will never get anybody even close to place number 200. I would go close to where I am now 400 meters down to the meatpacking district, experience a Friday or Saturday night down there with all the quirky restaurants and bars, seeing people mixing up.

Thank you for all the great recommendations. We do have our rapid-fire questions and you’ve lived in Africa, Switzerland, you’ve been to the United States, you’re a world traveler. We’d like to tell our guests to convey to our readers things about themselves that might help them be a better traveler. Our first question for you is have you ever completed anything on your personal bucket list and if so, what was it?

I don’t keep a list. My wife has a long one. I’m tagging on to that, but having been working in Asia, the Middle East, Africa, Switzerland, Italy, my wife is Italian. I get to travel quite a lot, not only with the job but still as a multicultural family. Mix as much with the locals as you can.

You get in there and understand what makes the city the city.

I’ve been invited to Bedouin for breakfast during Ramadan up on the north coast of Egypt. We were sitting on the floor, eating the meal and talking to them because they were delivering staff to the hotel I was working at. We were invited there. You read in any guide book, “Don’t drink the water they serve you,” but you drink the water and the tea. You play along, you don’t try to impose your world on them.

If you could live anywhere in the world for one year, where would it be?

I still love Italy a lot.

Any particular part of it in Italy?

I discovered Sardinia many years ago for the first time. I’ve been working and living in many palm tree tropical destinations all over the world. I was not aware that we had something beautiful right in the center of Europe ourselves. That was a great discovery.

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If you could travel with someone either famous or infamous, alive or dead, who would it be?

When I was dealing with the InterContinental in Davos during The World Economic Forum, I hoped Obama would show up because I knew he would stay at my hotel.

When packing for a trip, what is something you pack that may surprise our readers?

I’m not sure I have any view that surprises them.

We’ve heard a corkscrew quite a bit.

People in the hotel wants to travel with a flashlight. I forget some of the other ones, but some creative ones.

I tend to bring the coffee press. I dare not say that as a hotelier, but I’ve become a client also, and I’ve been a host also because we have a house that we do rent out to Airbnb. I think sometimes there are things that are missing. Wineglasses are another thing. I rarely bring them, but often you’re checking them in a place and they don’t have a proper glass to drink a glass of wine.

You’ve already given us some great examples of must do’s in Copenhagen, but do you have one more for us?

You have to have Tivoli on your list if you’re coming here the first time. I think it’s the world’s oldest amusement park. They turned 175 years. They’ve kept themselves relevant in the middle of the city. It’s a nice feel, good, beautiful experience, but Copenhagen has a lot to offer. Go on a bicycle and find your own way. You might find something I don’t.

It’s probably the friendliest bicycling city in the world.

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It’s definitely one of my favorite cities in Europe. I find it comfortable for an American tourist who might be a little nervous, but you get embedded into all of European, Scandinavian and specifically Danish culture. It’s a wonderful place.

You cover it quite easily. It’s not big, you can easily get a grasp of it.

Where can readers go to find more about your hotel and social media or website? Where’s the best place for them to go?

We’re doing a good job on Instagram, @VillaCPH and VillaCopenhagen.com, our website. We are still trying to display the hotel a lot there, but we go into more neighborhood stories there as we go along at the beginning. It’s been important for us to tell a lot about the hotel there. Wonderful Copenhagen is a website also that is done by our tourism board and they are doing a fantastic job in showing the great things in Copenhagen, even some quirky ones as well.

We look forward to getting over there and checking it out.

We’d like to thank you. For our readers, Peter has graciously given us a two-night stay with breakfast at Villa Copenhagen. Please go to Destination-Everywhere.com to sign up and get a chance to stay at this fantastic eco-friendly property. Peter, we can’t thank you enough. We look forward to seeing you in Copenhagen next time we come over and if you’re in Florida, please stop by and say hi.

You’re welcome in Copenhagen and thank you for all your interest in Copenhagen. It’s appreciated.

Thank you, Peter.

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We are about to talk about our top ten bucket list items to do when you’re in the beautiful city of Copenhagen. We’ve got a lot to cover. We’re going to get started with what Todd mentioned. He’s going to tell you a little bit about that bar area.

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We’re going to go back to Nyhavn, and it is the area with the beautiful buildings that are colored that we talked about. It’s probably one of the most photographed areas. In the 1960s, this area was a Red-Light District. We talk about a revitalization of a community. What used to be in the ‘60s, the Red-Light District is now having some of the best foods you can get in the country. Some of these places are also open 24 hours. If you’re looking for a place to eat and it’s 2:00 in the morning, and you’re finishing a night out, you could go down there and you’ll find something great for your appetite.

Number two is something that I’ve never seen before. It is experience time on the water on your own parkipelago. It is an artificial floating island that’s a public park that can be moved around to create larger islands and it’s unique. It’s brand new. They have two more planned for 2021 and nine total. It is inspired as artwork to generate questions and curiosity from bystanders walking by and then you can go onto these floating artificial islands. I have got to do that.

If you go Google parkipelago in Copenhagen, like an archipelago, which is natural island, you’ll see these pictures of these islands. It will blow your mind. The thought that somebody had in putting this together and making them come to fruition because they’re neat. Some of them are all wood deck with a tree in the middle that float. There are some that look like they have grass on them and it’s magnificent. We’re going to go from the water back. When we think of Denmark, there’s a term everybody uses in the US. When we talk about pastries, it’s the Danish pastry. There’s a reason we don’t say in many other countries before they’re made, but Danish pastries, you know exactly what we’re talking about. You could learn the art of baking at Danish pastry and take a baking class somewhere. There are places that teach the iconic treat and they bake with a professional pastry chef. You can take home some of those skills and it’s great for food lovers. You could go track that down in several places in Denmark.

After you eat your pastry, you can head straight over to the Carlsberg brewery. If you’ve never had Carlsberg beer, it’s fantastic. It’s a blonde beer that’s flavorful, but the brewery is over 250 years old and offers beer tasting. What a great thing to do midday, late afternoon with your friends. You can also use it as a unique venue for business meetings and conferences, which our company AMI has done in the past and the attendees love the space. It’s cool. The concept behind Carlsberg by the founder was he wanted to make an affordable beer for the general public. His prices were always kept very low and made it popular. He named the brewery after his son Carl who gifted the little mermaid statue that we talked about to the City of Copenhagen. What a great gift to the city and another great bucket list item to do.

I have a lot of experience with Carlsberg. I used to in another life represent that beer in a certain market in the United States. It was always a hit, but it’s a lot more expensive in the US and I’m sure it is in Copenhagen. This next experience is amazing. It’s definitely something that incorporates art, entertainment, social awareness, and then food because all of those things represent Denmark. There is a chef named Rasmus Munk, and you can go onto his Instagram site and see some of his creations. If you go to @RestaurantAlchemist, you’re going to see cool things. What they do are complete performances, drama, architecture, visual technology. Diners are encouraged to come with an open mind and enjoy this holistic cuisine. It’s not cheap. It’s roughly about $550, but you do need to make reservations ahead of time.

It’s a 50-course menu. If you put it in that context, I think it’s affordable.

It’s not only the menu, it’s not only the food, but it’s also the entertainment. He wants to encourage diners to think more about how food is processed and how it affects our physical body. For example, he will take the meat and he will inject it at the table with “antibodies.” The antibodies that they’re injecting it with is like an apple sauce. This brings awareness to hormones that many people put into our food that we then casually digest. They will also take fish and they will garnish it with edible plastic to highlight the amount of waste and pollution in the ocean. It is an immersive dining experience.

Where was that place?

It was in Montreal. It was everything. They turn off all the lights.

You had to eat in the dark. You don’t know what you’re eating.

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All the servers were blind and you go in. They tell you the map and then you hear things from the servers like, “On your left. On your right.” You know where they’re serving from, but you have to touch your food, you have to feel around. I think somebody in our table spilled their wine. It was an amazing dinner and a great experience.

The clients were happy. It was a good time, probably a little risky, but those immersive dinners and experiences are truly unique. It’s one of those things that will make your trip memorable if you go.

It was great because I had an awareness of what a blind person for the few minutes I ate goes through all the time, every day. It’s extremely difficult. This particular dining experience is about social awareness with the environment and pollution and what they put in the meat. Check it out.

Our next one is if you are down on the water, but you’re cold. There’s a new Nordic wellness place called CopenHot. Their aim is to provide a wilderness experience in an urban setting. It’s great for travelers who want to stay warm in the cooler months when they’re visiting and they have outdoor saunas with panoramic views of the harbors.

They’re down on the water. You’ll see right on the pier, there will be 8, 9 or 10 hot tubs and each one is private. You have to make a reservation 24 hours in advance for that. With the saunas and the hot tubs, no matter what time of year, you can be sitting outside enjoying it. There’s another cool venue. It’s now a dried-up underwater reservoir and now it’s turned into an art exhibition. It’s Cisterns and it’s an old underground water reservoir. It once held 16 million liters of water, it’s now dried up and it serves as an art exhibition. It also hosts various events. It’s another great unique space that you could check out.

Here’s one that you can get 2 for 1 off your bucket list. You can grab a coffee to go at Copenhagen’s smallest cafe, which is also touted as the world’s smallest hotel because it has one bedroom. You’ve got to call ahead for that one. It is located in Vesterbro neighborhood right on the border of Frederiksburg with great streets and restaurants, but definitely a bucket list experience if you’re looking to check off the smallest cafe and also the smallest hotel.

We’re going to go from the smallest to the opulent. The next property that you should definitely check out, even if you go by for one of the many events that they have is the Nimb Hotel in Tivoli Gardens. This is a five-star beautiful Arabian style. It has these rounded peaks that look like you’re watching Aladdin. This is a beautiful Arabian-inspired hotel in the middle of these gorgeous gardens that are world-known and they do cool events. They do an October Fest, dinner concerts, crawfish feast, things like that. If you have the time, check it out, grab a drink there, do something and walk around the gardens. It’s gorgeous.

Upcoming in 2022, the Tour de France will start in Copenhagen. You can bike now because the roads are already mapped out. That’s a great experience if you can give yourself a trial test run of what’s happening on the Tour de France when it goes through Copenhagen. Think about that. It would be a lot of fun and a great way to see the city.

Did you hear The Six Forgotten Giants? They’re large wooden sculptures that are hidden throughout the area and they follow along the present 19-mile route of the Tour de France that is going to be taking place in Copenhagen.

We hosted an event at the Old Stock Exchange that dates back to 1625. It’s classic. It’s one of the oldest buildings in Copenhagen and it’s not open to the public but serves as a venue. If you’re doing a private event, it is a great place to do in the city for dinners, conferences and other events. Put that down on your list as well.

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I’m going to add one more. Big cities always have these markets, but there is a market in the Meatpacking District. They have all these markets there. You could spend all day walking around the old stalls complete with shops, restaurants and galleries and underground bars. You’ve got to check out the Meatpacking District market. There is still so much to do in Copenhagen. What’s great about it is you could get a bike or walk because all this stuff is in a small space. You’ve got to check it out. Our next guest is Kasper Eich-Romme who is the Cofounder of GoBoat.

Our next guest is the Cofounder of GoBoat, which is a solar-powered sustainable boat rental company. Welcome, Kasper Eich-Romme. How are you?

I’m brilliant. Thanks for letting me in on your show.

Kasper is joining us from Copenhagen. Are you in Copenhagen or somewhere else in Denmark?

I am in Copenhagen.

It is one of the most beautiful cities in Europe, for sure.

When we pick a city, we look for something cool and different. Especially for a traveler that’s not from Copenhagen, GoBoat is something that is impressive. Copenhagen has always been known as a leader when it comes to sustainability and protecting the environment. GoBoat goes hand in hand with that philosophy. Tell us a little bit about these boats.

Let’s start with the boats. They are sustainable and we started renting them out here in Copenhagen in 2014. From the beginning, it’s been a question of making a boat rental platform that was sustainable, but more as a social project. That’s why we designed the boats with a table in the middle so that people could come together, have a good time while sailing on solar, water and wind energy. That’s the basics of it. The boat is partly built from plastic bottles and recycled PT as well.

Where were you when this idea popped into your head? What was the impetus for this happening?

I told my wife that I went to a summer house nearby Copenhagen to write my final exam paper, but I was going there with a friend to have some wine and we come up with good ideas on what to do in Copenhagen. I’ve always been fond of being on the water and it popped up that it was hard to get a boat or own a boat. It’s expensive. It’s hard to find moorings spots in Copenhagen, lots of other places as well. Here, it was impossible to get on the water and we have so much water in Copenhagen, and it was the perfect idea. I called my wife the morning after and said, “I have this fantastic idea.” She was like, “You were supposed to write your exam.” She hung up, but now she’s happy and she’s working in GoBoat. She sees this as a good thing.

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It is, especially in this day and age, sustainability is everywhere. Who designed the boat?

It’s my partner. In GoBoat, we have three partners, Carl and Anders. I knew Carl from high school and when the idea occurred, I called him straight away because he’s an architect with a specialty in Naval Arts. He designed boats. It made sense to contact him. We had a lot of talks about what should this boat be able to do? Why do we want to start it? Everything like that and when we approached people in the beginning and told them, “We’re going to start a boat rental,” they were like, “Why? Another boat rental. That is the most unsexy thing in the world to do.” We had an idea and the idea was basically that it’s more social experiment. It’s about the aesthetics. That’s where Carl comes into the picture because he’s been fond of boats all his life. We wanted to create the perfect environment to sit together in a boat that is simple, easy to navigate and beautiful. That’s the basics of what we want to do.

What would you call the style of the boat? Is there a certain boat that you took it after or is it something completely unique?

Carl is inspired by different boats. It’s some Italian and some Swedish boats that he has been inspired from. Boats are boats so it’s hard to make a completely new look to a boat.

How many people can fit on it?

It fits eight people and there’s a table in the middle of the boat. It’s a light boat but still stable. It’s built for everyone to steer it. It’s easy to navigate because it doesn’t require a license to rent out.

You don’t need any experience to get on this boat?

No. One of our missions is to make water accessible for everyone. Also, people have not tried it before, but to get people to try and feel the freedom, it gives you to be on the water and control your own boat.

How fast can it go? What’s the fastest you can get it up to?

In Copenhagen, we limit the electric engine to go around 3.5 knots.

Nice cruising speed and casual. You can drink some wine and not spill it.

It’s like walking speed, in a way. It’s not about speed. It’s about being together. It’s about safety as well because if you go fast and you’re not experienced, then things could go wrong.

Looking at it, you don’t have a typical captain’s chair with the steering wheel. You are steering it with a hand rudder in the back.

That is true. A lot of people want to have the steering wheel to navigate with, but we like the steering rod because it’s old school and it’s maritime. It gives you a better feeling of the water and it’s easier to navigate.

When you’re renting the boat, how do they rent them and for what time period can they get them?

When people rent boats at GoBoat, it’s an hourly basis. I would say the average is around 2.5 and 3 hours that people rent the boats, but it could vary from a whole day to one hour.

It’s solar-powered but does the solar-power charge a battery and then it’s on a battery at that point? How long do you have before it starts to fade?

That’s also a good thing to clarify since people cannot see the place we are renting out from, but on the roof of our rental building, the roof is completely covered with solar panels. Those solar panels are charging the boats when it’s at the dock. When they are not, we send energy back to the power network. The roof was enough to charge the eight boats that we started out with. Now we have 44 boats at the dock in Copenhagen. That’s not enough. We made a partnership with E.ON, which is Europe’s biggest private-owned electricity company. They provide the rest of the electricity from sustainable sources, which is in Copenhagen mostly wind power.

The route that you take on the boat. I’ve never been to Copenhagen. I’m an international traveler and I find you guys. What direction would you give me if I want to go? Are there places to get food and drinks along the route? Do you have courses planned out, different routes planned out for the guests?

We don’t plan routes for the guests, but we give advice. I think it’s important that when you come to Copenhagen which I hope you will soon, you feel the freedom. We will make some notes. You get a map because if not, you will get lost. That wouldn’t be good. We would give you some advice on your journey and tell you where you could stop to get something to drink, something to eat or whatever, but not too much because you should feel it. The whole concept is that you should leave your iPhone. You should be there and disconnect, connect with the people around you and connect with the city surrounding you.

It is a different city from the water. It’s a completely different experience.

What’s also interesting is that most of our visitors are locals doing it again and again. You get to revisit your own city. It is completely different from the water and it is completely different depending on who you bring in the boat. That’s why we haven’t been hard hit by this Coronavirus because we are not dependent on tourists. We love tourists and we would love to have them, and have more of them, but since it is mainly locals using our boats, in this case, we are lucky.

You started in Denmark, but now you’ve also got locations around the UK, Australia and Sweden. It seems that you’re growing quite quickly.

It’s been a fun adventure. The way we grow is by licensed takers. We provide them with the whole setup. We’ve made our own IT fleet management system. We design and redevelop boats all the time, the brand and everything. Basically, a lot of cities and people riding us every week want the concept, not as much these days, but normally, a lot of people want to have GoBoat to their city. We are still young. We could have opened in 100 or 200 places, but it’s important for us that we do it the right way and with the right people. In this phase, we’ve been chasing the right persons to work with. Luckily, we found them in the partners we have.

You’re also launching seanix. Tell us a little bit about that.

It’s in its early stage. We are doing the prototype, but it’s something a bit different. It is still water-based. In a few words, it is a modular-paced recreational floating system. What we’ve discovered throughout the renting out boats in several years and in different locations is that we have prime locations in some of the best cities in the world. We can only operate the boat rental business for half a year because then it gets cold. We have harbors not only in Copenhagen but also in other places that, to be honest, they’re a bit dead in the winter period. There’s not that much happening. Water is good. People should use the water. We’ve invented the system to explore the water, also in cold times. It is floating modular systems built on its boats, but they can be fitted as saunas, as meeting rooms, as hotels.

Do they move? Do they have an engine on them?

They can have an engine. They can sail because they are certified as boats, but they are made for being plugged in places where they can lie and serve a purpose there.

It sounds novel and such a great idea. People like to be near and on the water at all times. To give them a different type of experience is wonderful. You’re from Copenhagen. In this episode, we’re talking about all things Copenhagen. As a local, can you tell people what are some of your favorite things to do around the city? A restaurant or activity when you’re not working, but I’m sure you’re probably working a lot, but what do you recommend?

There are many good things to recommend. Normally, I don’t recommend the same ever because I think things change rapidly and that’s only great. The whole food scene and what’s happening there in Copenhagen has been extremely inspiring and fantastic and also because you can eat all the time then and try stuff out. To follow that, the last couple of years has been extremely fantastic. If I should recommend something, I would recommend everyone to go to a restaurant called Barr. It’s a traditional Danish food. The last time I went there, I got something called wiener schnitzel. When I got that, I began to cry because it was good.

Food that makes you cry in Copenhagen.

My wife still thinks it’s odd when I start crying about food, but I can’t help it. Definitely go there.

Other than renting a GoBoat, not the norm, where would you say, “You’ve got to go do this. It’s cool. Copenhagen is the only place you can do this?”

It’s something that you might be able to do somewhere else, but the good thing about Copenhagen is that it’s a city that has a lot of diversity, a lot of different people, a lot of things you can do, but it’s centered in a very small geographic area so you can come around. I would say, rent a bike and go around. My wife made a surprise for me and she picked me up in a bike taxi that I hadn’t done it for ages and bought me some drinks and we were strolling around Copenhagen.

You can pick those up on any corner.

That was a great experience. Go around and stop at all the places you should see and go in.

Kasper, we wish you the best of luck with GoBoat. It sounds like a fantastic experience for anybody that comes through Copenhagen. We hope a lot of our readers come and visit you when they’re there.

Where can they find you on social media and keep up with you?

It’s @GoBoatCPH.

I know you also have GoBoat.dk. That will take you to the website for bookings. Thank you for your time. We appreciate you and best of luck to you.

Thank you. It’s such a pleasure. I hope to see you in real life one day.

It was a pleasure speaking to our guests. Copenhagen is one of my favorite cities. Not only in Europe, but in the world for all the reasons we talked about. If it’s not on your bucket list, I highly recommend it. It’s not only great to go with families and friends, but it’s great for business trips, for conferences and to hold a meeting. Those are all great reasons to go to explore the city. Todd, what was your favorite thing that we talked about because there was so much to choose from?

All those things that we discussed are cool, the parkipelago thing blows me away. The way that people in Copenhagen mix the social awareness, the art, food, and culture is neat. You could walk around and it doesn’t stop.

I think you heard through the entire show about their focus on sustainability as one of the first cities that’s focused on it. A major old city in Europe that has done that. It is part of the culture, not only from the food, but the entertainment to the lifestyle. It has that focus on green living and long-term sustainability for the future of mankind. It’s another reason why I love Copenhagen.

It is proximity to other trips. It’s north of Germany. It’s right over the bridge from Sweden. You could go in almost any direction, go into a different world, extend your trip, and experience something different. One thing I’m curious about doing is getting out of Copenhagen and seeing the rest of what Denmark has to offer, which I’m excited about. It’s definitely a place I will go back to. It’s changed so much since I’ve been there. I’m excited to get back and see the new things that it has to offer.

Special thanks to all of our guests. We appreciate Kasper from GoBoat, as well as Peter Pedersen from Villa Copenhagen.

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Peter Pedersen is a danish national who has spent 35 years in the industry starting out in F&B. He traveled the world with GM postings for brands like Radisson, Hilton, Banyan Tree, Intercontinental and Nordic Hotels and Resorts in locations like Stockholm – Sweden, Egypt, Philippines, China, Nigeria, Switzerland, Italy and now Copenhagen. He has done 5 – 5 star hotel openings and after many years with large branded chains it was a great and fulfilling experience to have freedom to shape and create Villa Copenhagen with his team.

About Kasper Eich-Romme

Kasper co-founded GoBoat in 2014. Before starting the company, he was involved in other experience based startups and working with TV and events. His main hobbies are being with friends and family, eating good food, drinking wine, exploring the world, and of course sailing.

 

 

 

 

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There are so many things to do in Croatia. Join us as we explore this country of untouched beauty as our guests give us tips and the best time to visit Croatia. From biking trails and medieval towns to breathtaking views of the crystal-blue Adriatic, Croatia offers a variety of landscapes, cultures, cuisines, and fun activities. Joining us in this episode are veteran hotelier Kai Behrens and chef Rudolf Stefan, who gives us an enthralling depiction of what you can expect from this charming, underrated Mediterranean treasure. Kai is the Cluster General Manager of two Kempinski properties, one of which is the Kempinsky Hotel Adriatic in Istria, while Rudolf is the executive chef and owner of Peligrini a Michelin Star-awarded restaurant in Šibenik, Central Croatia. Plus, Andy and Todd narrate their whole destination bucket list for listeners to follow!

Andy McNeill and Todd Bludworth are travel and hospitality entrepreneurs and owners of the global meetings organization, American Meetings, Inc. From sourcing meetings in Croatia, to corporate event management around the world, their team selects corporate event venues and meeting planners for a wide array of enterprise business clients, providing ideas for convention themes and strategies for running global meetings and events. Learn more at www.mtgshealth.wpengine.com.

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Welcome everyone to the show. We are excited to be joining you in Croatia. It is going to be a fantastic show. We’re going to talk about all the different areas of Croatia. We have several times done the entire coast in England from the wines to the cheeses, fresh seafood and history. It is a bucket list adventure. Todd, let’s talk a little bit about our last trip there, where we cruised along the coast. It was incredible.

It was. We did that a few years ago. Croatia was one of those places that growing up, you never heard about it as a destination, especially for people coming from the States. I think in Europe, it was always more popular, but when the itinerary came out for this trip that he’s talking about and I saw Croatia. I was excited because I had heard of Dubrovnik and I’d seen pictures of it. That was one of the destinations, but besides Dubrovnik, it is cool to go up the coast and see all of these other towns.

We went to Dubrovnik. We went to Split. Korčula was another one, which is an island. If you look at it on a map, it’s got a tremendous huge coastline. Thousands and thousands of miles of beach and included in that right off there are islands. Each island is unique also, but it’s got a history to it. For the people who’ve watched Game of Thrones, a lot of the background was filmed in Croatia, which is interesting. I think it was one of the scenes where the city was demolished, but the Dalmatian Coast stretches into a big vast area. There were a lot of locations filmed for that series along the Dalmatian Coast, which was cool.

It’s an incredible country for many reasons. We probably could do 4 or 5 shows about Croatia. We’re going to stuff as much as we can from bucket list things. We’re going to talk to a Michelin Star chef. We’re going to talk to the general manager of one of the nicest five-star hotels in the Northern part of Croatia. We’ve got a great list of activities and people to speak to.

To give our readers some perspective of where Croatia is, it lies on the Adriatic Sea. North of it is Slovenia, which is another one of those untouched countries that maybe one day we’ll open up and become a great destination. South of it is Montenegro and then Albania, which all of these incidentally were places that we stopped when we were going up the Adriatic coast. It was all amazing and as close as they are. They are all different in terms of culture, but it was gorgeous.

It’s because of its location, it’s affordable to get to from anywhere in Europe. Italy is right across the Adriatic. It’s a quick flight from Rome. There are lots of easy ways to get there. One of these locations that you want to put on your bucket list. There are lots to do from wine tastings to great country to biking because of the rural roads. There’s so much to do. We can’t wait to bring it to you.

I want to talk about that 10% of it is made up of natural reserves. For people who enjoy the outdoors, there is a lot of that to enjoy in Croatia.

We are here with our next special guests with Kai Behrens. Kai is the Cluster General Manager of two Kempinski properties. One is in Slovenia, but we’re going to focus on Croatia and that is the Kempinski Hotel Adriatic. Kai, thank you for joining us.

Thank you for having me

We’re excited to have you. Kai, you are German-born. How did you end up in Croatia? What is your background in the hospitality and hotel business?

I always say somehow it was, “You get the unexpected.” I ended up in Croatia a couple of years ago and it came overnight. I was prior to be stationed in China and one day I got a call from my regional president asking me if I would move back to Europe. I said, “Sure. Why not?” He said, “How about you come to Croatia?” I said, “You must be kidding me.” He said, “Why? That was one of the properties I was always hoping for because it’s a stunning location, a hotel and a fantastic country to work in. I said, “Of course.” It went within three weeks, the deal was done. I had the pleasure of relocating from central China into a small town in Croatia. I came from eighteen million city in China to a 300 town in Croatia. I was shocked in the beginning.

You landed in a beautiful place. If you’re looking on our YouTube channel, you can see a sitting in front of a plate-glass window looking over the Adriatic, which is one of the most beautiful oceans or seas in the world. It’s stunning. They’re beautiful.

Is your entire hotel background been with the Kempinski hotels?

I joined several years in the hospitality sector. I started with that stage with a relatively small American brand called Hyatt. I spent my first ten years in a career with Hyatt and grew up through the ranks. Back many years ago, I decided it’s time to change the brands. At that time, my GM took me with him to a Kempinski project to open, which unfortunately never happened. I said, “I’ll stick to the company.” I’m a loyal employee to my brands. I said, “I don’t want to jump brands all the time.” In my twenty-plus years, I worked for two brands.

For people that aren’t familiar with Kempinski, they may know the name of a property, but not even know it’s a Kempinski property, but each hotel is unique and their design. They’re not a cookie-cutter brand by any means. They’re boutiquey in the field and service. Let’s talk about Croatia, specifically the Kempinski Hotel Adriatic in the Northeast of Croatia, on a peninsula.

One of the most unknown areas of Croatia. If you talk Croatia on the national scale, people know Croatia mainly because of the Southern part being provenance, traveling up North and then maybe Split, but the Northern part is relatively unknown. It’s a pity. For me, the Northern part is way more attractive than the Southern part because it’s a complete mixture of different cultures. It used to belong at one stage to Italy. It once belongs to Austria. The people have a cultural mix of all these different nationals, which makes it interesting. It’s a blend of all the food and all the culinary. It gets the blends over all Europe and that makes it unique.

You’re considered five-star property in Europe. Tell us a little bit about what makes your property special?

When we opened the hotel many years ago, the Adriatic was the first true international five-star luxury property in the Northern part of Croatia. Over the last few years, more luxury hotels are coming into that part. We invented luxury traveling through Istria and people knew us for many years. If you talk luxury destination Istria, people say, “That’s Kempinski. It’s the only one you have.” Whenever this entire development was established, it was a mind-blowing project because it’s not only the hotel we had, which was built onto the shore of a rocky coast. We have a hotel with 286 rooms and suites. We have in there the leisure facilities, two outdoor pools and one indoor pool. On top, we have built a conference center, which is unique items where you sit on the beach and you look onto the sea while having a conference. That’s something I think nobody else has. We always say we have people coming for a site inspection and their biggest concern is that my attendees will get distracted because of all these views, “Can we close all the windows, please? How can you close these windows?” “We can, but you’re not coming for sitting in a dark room.” It’s amazing.

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Is it great for sales meetings, sales, incentive programs and conferences?

Conferences, yes, but mainly we are focusing on incentive and product launch. We have quite a lot of car launches because on top of Istria is secluded. You have no traffic. When people come here, companies showcase their brand-new cars, which are not on the market yet. The journalists fly in and nobody notices them. They can enjoy the privacy of small roads driving past the cove. That’s one of the key focus areas we have. We have a golf course attached that combines a lot of other opportunities with the golf course.

How many holes is it? Is it an eighteen-hole golf course?

It’s an eighteen holes golf course on 72 par with a course length of over 6,000 meters. It’s a good thing or not a good thing, depending on how you look at it as a golfer. The entire Croatia have I think 3 or 4 golf courses. We are the only ones in the area. A lot of our business, especially in spring and autumn, our golfers who travel from Southern Germany and Austria will come for a long weekend or a week to enjoy the climate and good rounds of golf.

To give our readers a perspective, if you’re looking at the YouTube channel, you see Slovenia and that stretched over the water. If you go directly across the Adriatic, you run into Venice, Italy, which is about what a 2.5-hour boat ride.

It depends on the boat you have. You can do it easily in a two-hour boat ride. What you see across is Italy already. On the other side, you see Slovenia. The peninsula is one of the rare areas where you have access to directly three countries. You have Croatia, Slovenia and Italy. On a good day, it’s when you have clear days, which unfortunately days are not strong. You have to also see the Italian Alps. After a rainy day, the Alps look very close especially in spring or early autumn. You see the snow-covered Alps. You have twenty degrees here and beautiful sun. It’s amazing.

Jumping back to the golf course quickly, are some of the holes on the coast?

Unfortunately, not. The golf course is more inland. It’s on the other side of the hotel. On some holes, you have views of the sea, but it’s not direct to the coast.

Let’s talk a little bit about some of the activities that the hotel does for guests and groups that come into the property. What are some of the favorite activities that you recommend people do around the hotel?

The most favorite activities depend on the seasonality. Quite a lot of companies interested in a combination of all. They want to do some outdoor activities going on to the sea. In the last few years, standup paddling is the favorite sport. A group of 20, 30 people going with a paddling board 2 to 3 kilometers along the coastline. There comes a small secluded beach they could prepare picnics, barbecues and enjoy. Most of them are not going to make it back on the paddling board because they’re enjoying too much stuff. That’s something different. We also combined because Istria is one of the most interesting culinary destinations.

A lot of people want to experience culinary. We have in the early autumn, sometimes a range and we go olive picking because all around us are the olive trees. We go to an olive farm. They’re going to pick the olive oil and the olives. It’s a nice takeaway after. Personalized bottle of olive oils. It’s well-known. Istria is one of the biggest producers of truffles. A lot of people, a lot of the groups want to go on truffle hunting tours. In spring, it’s the black truffle. In summer, we go for the summer truffle. This is the season for the white truffle.

There are three seasons.

There are minimum of three seasons for truffle hunting and every single one is different. The white truffle is mind-blowing. It’s easy to find. There’s so much out there. It’s more or less guaranteed success.

When they truffle hunt, are they using dogs or pigs? I heard pigs are more effective. I don’t know if that’s true, but I’ve heard they used both.

Here they mainly use dogs. I think it’s more to do that pigs eat the truffles quicker than you can say no.

Tell us a little bit about the wine scene there and what you can do around wine?

Istria is famous for wine. The Southern part or the peninsula, the coastal side is more known for the white wines. A typical Istrian white wine is the Malvazija. I think in a 20-kilometer radius, there are around 20 to 30 wineries. You can take a tour from the hotel. The closest winemaker next to us is 300 meters away. You can have a wine cellar. They do the estate tours. You have local small-scale wineries, but you also have large scale of wineries which are famous in the region in Europe and then also overseas. If you want to visit every winery, you have to stay for a month. One day you visited, take a break and then you go off again.

What a great thing to do with your guest. It sounds like it’s easy to get to back and forth and you can do it most of the year. What’s the best season to come if you want to have a wine experience?

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Croatia: Croatia is one of those places that you never heard about as a destination, especially for people coming from the States.

 

It depends. If you want to go for a winery tour and a wine tasting, then that works all year round. If you want to go a little more into the experience of the harvest thing, then it’s the late summer or early fall. A lot of these wineries are happy to also take you on doing the harvesting and show you how to harvest. All the seasonality for the destination of Croatia, for groups and events, I always had the best season to travel is either spring. It’s the middle of April until the middle of June. The weather is fantastic with very little rain and not too warm. Starting in the middle of September until early November.

What’s the best airport to fly into?

It depends on where you’re coming from. The closest airport from a distance is Trieste, which is around 75, 80 kilometers. The only issue there in high season if you’re coming in summer is that you have to travel across two borders. There is the Italian and Slovenia Border which is not a problem at all because it’s an open border, but then you need to cross Slovenia to Croatia, which is the Schengen border and they are passport controlled. There might be or there is a delay in crossing the border. The quickest in travel time is the Pula Airport, which operates mainly from April until October.

Is it an easy trip from there?

You go on to 5 kilometers away from the hotel, start to the highway and the highway drops you to the airport. It’s a 45, 50-minute drive with no issues.

Kai, let’s talk a little bit about the dining experiences that you offer at the hotel. Tell us about the main restaurant.

The main restaurant we have is located on our hotel premises, which is called Restaurant Dijana. As we are using this as our all-day dining in hotel terms, meaning breakfast, lunch and dinner, it’s more focused on international cuisine plus some Istrian specialties because people come with families. They want to have their spaghetti. They want to have their steaks. It’s a wide spread of culinary offers.

What is a traditional Istrian cuisine?

A traditional Istrian cuisine is either a boskarin, which is a type of beef, which is exclusive. There are not too many cattles that exist. It’s difficult to buy large quantities. You always have to order two years in advance in order to secure your own supplies. It’s a lot of truffles fresh pasta. The local pasta is either Fusi, which is a roll pasta or Pljukanci. These are the two traditional pasta types. You eat this either with a meat sauce or we always eat it all the time with the truffle sauce. With that location, with that sea behind that is so close, seafood is in any kind. That’s what you need. Being it the local sea bass, which is fished outside. There are local Adriatic tuna, calamari and octopus, everything available. If you travel 30, 40 kilometers down from here towards Pula, then you have a fjord which is called Limski Kanal. Hardly anybody knows that it’s famous for producing one of the best oysters in the world because it’s mixing the seawater and the freshwater producing amazing flavors. They have amazing shrimp. Once you try it, you say, “Forget the French oysters.”

Kai, we ask each one of our guests that come on the show to answer some questions for us and the questions for people like you, who are world travelers. Who have seen things and have traveled the globe to give our readers some tips on what they can do and what they can see around the world. They’re called our rapid-fire questions. Are you ready to answer them for us?

Sure.

The first one is, have you ever completed anything on your personal bucket list? If so, what was it?

I’m a fortunate person. I’m traveling the world. I live in eleven countries for work. I’ve been to the most amazing destinations and being in these amazing destination, I had the opportunity to visit places which other people would put on their bucket list. For me, one of the most amazing ones was when I was living in Australia. In Australia, everybody talks about the Great Barrier Reef. I get that one. For me, one of the most amazing things is the Great Ocean Road, the Twelve Apostles. I was lucky enough to visit at least ten of the apostles and more of them are tumbling, but this is something unique. You walk down and then you have a long stretch of beach on the Twelve Apostles where you walk miles. There’s nobody. It’s an amazing landscape and you see these amazing towers are stone in the middle of the ocean. In China, I’ve been to the Great Wall. I was fortunate to go on one of these days when there was nobody. You see the millions of people, we walked up there and there were my family and I and nobody else. I was lucky to pick the right dates.

We did a podcast on Australia and we talked about that. It’s great for anybody’s bucket list. If you could live anywhere in the world for a year, where would it be that you haven’t already?

I would rent the house next to me right up on the hills enjoying the Croatian hillside. Here you have everything you want. You have great food and fantastic weather. If you need to travel, you have an airport close by. I can always say rewinding on the Eastern coast. There’s no traffic. There are no people. It’s an amazing place to be.

Is there a walkable village near the hotel?

We have a small town here called Savudrija and that is altogether 300 people living. It’s 300 meters from the town. You can walk on the coastline and you end up on a small fishing harbor. There are fishermen who come in in the morning and you can buy fresh fish. There are three small fishing restaurants and really down to earth. It’s amazing.

It sounds like a special place. If you could travel with someone infamous or famous, who would it be?

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I am traveling business-wise every 2 or 3 destinations, I don’t travel privately. What I do when I go away is I go home and spend time with my family. Out of the 365 days a year, I try to be at least twenty days a family man.

When you’re packing for a trip, what is something you pack that might surprise our readers?

It’s going to sound strange because what I’m going to take with me is my mobile phone, but I’m not taking a mobile phone for getting calls, but because I’m more or less addicted to Blinkist. Every free time, I go on the Blinkist playlist and listen to books because I have no time to be reading books.

There are some great tips there and it’s almost like CliffsNotes for audiobooks. It’s incredible. You can get through an entire concept in fifteen minutes. That’s a great suggestion. Everyone remembers that. Finally, what is your most memorable experience in Croatia since you’ve been there?

It’s not the most memorable experience since I’m here. I used to work in a neighboring country many years ago and I went on a holiday to Croatia. I went to Island Hvar, which is a famous island in front of Split. Because the hospitality industry is stressful, I ran completely on a digital detox and I rented an old cabin in the middle of nowhere where we had no electricity, no running water and no internet. I spent there for two weeks without access to the outside world. I said, “This is amazing.” That’s something you can still find in Croatia. If you want it, you will have peace and calmness. If you want, you travel 20 kilometers and then you have your entertainment and nightlife. You have the best of both worlds.

That’s what’s beautiful about the country. It’s different and a small country. You can have lots of different experiences. That in and of itself, no one’s ever said as a bucket list thing to do is to unplug. It’s a great suggestion and one that all of us should take and consider because it is a great way to recalibrate and then focus on your life again.

It’s an experience that everybody needs to go through or should go through. I’m not having a phone in front of you, but once you get back, it’s like, “Do I need that phone again?”

Kai, as we’re talking about bucket lists, somebody who visits Croatia besides your property, what’s one thing that you would recommend you guys must do this?

A question of the personality of the individual traveling. For me, Istria is amazing for cycling. You can do there 10, 15 cycling tracks from 15 to 100 kilometers of length and you go on small roads. There is no big traffic. It’s amazing. You have these medieval towns, which are 20, 30 kilometers away. It’s an excursion day with a bicycle. It’s amazing.

Can you get access to bicycles over there easily for rental?

At the hotel, we are renting both the normal mountain bikes, as well as the e-mountain bikes. A lot of people like to travel here with their own bikes.

Kai, thank you for your time. What a beautiful place. I can’t wait to come. Everything you told us from the wineries to the truffle. You told me that you can cycle there and it’s beautiful and rural. I can’t wait to come and we appreciate your time telling us about your beautiful hotel.

Thank you for the opportunity. I’m looking forward to seeing you in Croatia. I’ll take you truffle hunting.

Don’t plant the truffles ahead of time.

Don’t worry. I wouldn’t be able to.

Thank you so much, Kai Behrens.

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We’re going to talk about some bucket list items. There are some cool and unique things to do in Croatia. You heard Kai talk about the differences in the Northern and Southern parts of Croatia. We’re going to touch a little bit on each, but the first thing that he talked about that I want to touch on again was truffle hunting in Istria. Istria is where his property was located up at the peninsula in the Northern part of Croatia, which is great. They do have an annual truffle festival and then local guides will escort you through the forest in Istria and you can learn how to find and how to cook truffles, which is amazing. It’s something I did not know, but I learned was the different seasons for the truffles, which was cool, but that’s a must-do. We did it in another country one time, but Croatia is probably better known for it. We’d have to put that back on my bucket list.

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Croatia: The Northern part of Croatia is relatively unknown, which is a pity because it is way more attractive than the South because it’s a complete mixture of different cultures.

 

There’s another great thing to do in Zagreb, which is the Museum of Illusions. This is a great thing to have for a business meeting. You can rent the entire space out or you can do it as an individual tourist, but there’s a visual sensory and educational experience with 70 exhibits that teach you about vision, perception and the human brain. You can defy gravity in a room where the water flows uphill or you can see your friend shrink before your eyes and get lost in amazing mirrors. You can hang from a ceiling in a rotating room. That’s called the Museum of Illusions in Zagreb. It might be a great thing to do if you’re in the city.

The next one I’m going to talk about it’s something that I thought I knew about the wine industry. There is an underwater winery in Edivo. They had built the first underwater winery, aging wine at the bottom of the Adriatic Sea. You can also visit Edivo Wine Bar and then learn about the process and how they do it. You can taste the wines. If you have that need for increasing that adventure level a little bit, you can do a scuba diving tour of the winery itself. If you’re a scuba diver, this is something you’d want to add to your bucket list.

I have to do that. To be able to scuba dive into a winery, that is going onto my top twenty bucket list for sure.

Speaking of winery, there’s a great international festival of wine and culinary art that’s held at the Hotel Esplanade. Supposedly, it’s the top food and wine event in Croatia. If you’re a foodie and a wine aficionado, you want to consider the international festival of wine and culinary art at the Hotel Esplanade.

I’m going to take you back over to the water. Something unique to Croatia is the Pasara. It is a traditional Croatian boat. You could go to Hvar Island, take one of this out. You can put six passengers on them. You don’t need any experience in driving boats in order to maneuver these and onboard. They typically have a refrigerator. You can stock up on food, water, alcohol and enjoy your day at sea.

It sounds like the perfect day. Have you done it?

Yes. There’s also the Paklinski Islands which you can explore. Grab a group of friends, depending on who you’re traveling with. Become a little bit familiar with the area because you will end up in the Adriatic, but that would be a great experience. If you love wine, there are the Hvar Wine Tours. You could do half a day of swimming and then half a day of wine tasting, but I’d do the wine tasting second.

Here are some that Todd and I did a few years ago was to enjoy drinking at the hidden cliff bar in Dubrovnik. It is one of those cities that looks like a movie set. It was the base for one of the cities in the Game of Thrones, but a lot of it was destroyed in the Bosnian War many years ago. They’ve rebuilt a lot of the red tiles. It makes it even more dramatic as a city but they have two bars that are on the edge of the cliffs and the name is Buza and Buza II. It translates as hole because you can only access them through a hole in the cliff. I remember sitting at this bar, which is enclosed inside a cliff looking out and there were tons of paddleboards going on.

It’s kind of a maze to get there too so we could see it and we knew we want to go there.

We snuck up on it. We didn’t even plan on it.

You start walking through these little corridors and you’re like, “I think this is it and I think you go out here.”

We need to make sure, everyone, if you’re going to Dubrovnik, make sure you put that on your list because it’s a lot of fun.

If you’re looking out the walled city, you’ll see it on the waterside, down low. It’s cool. You could also listen to Zadar’s Sea Organ and it’s underneath the 230 footsteps on Zadar’s coastline. It’s 35 different pipes and they all create beautiful tones when the water goes in and out. We did that as well. When the tide would come in, you would hear them and it goes out. It pushes the air through pipes. A lot of people are taking pictures, but it’s known as the sea organ. They say it never makes the same noise twice. It’s great for hanging out, sunbathing and having a meal.

When you’re on the coast, there are tons of caves and we’ve mentioned 2 or 3 of them, but there are also two famous ones. There’s the blue cave which is the Blue Grotto. You can go every day and it loops between the hours of 11 and 1 on sunny days, it eliminates the water into this bright blue. It’s a little touristy so you might want to try to go in the offseason. For a similar experience, there’s also the Green Cave, which is located in Bisevo Island. It’s often less crowded because it’s farther out and provides you the options for swimming as well. Anywhere in Croatia, you’re going to be able to enjoy a beautiful Adriatic, which is one of the most beautiful bodies of water on the planet.

Besides going and doing something, the great thing about Croatia and every single destination that we went to, you could go walking, grabbing a beer, sitting, watching the people and looking at the view.

It’s great for those who own a business or in charge of a group. It’s a great group destination because a lot of people haven’t been, it’s relatively inexpensive still and is one of those places that has the high quality of a European country, but not necessarily the prices and the views are unmatched.

We are excited to have a very special guest with us. We have the Executive Chef and Owner of Pelegrini‘s in Šibenik, Croatia, Rudolf Stefan. Chef, thank you so much for joining us.

Thank you for inviting me. I’m pleased and honored to be a part of your show.

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We wanted to talk a little bit about Croatia. It seems with the people that I talk to, it’s become a very popular destination, probably the last decade, especially from visitors from the US and many other places that are far away. What is the attraction to Croatia that you see that is drawing people to come?

For a couple of years, I have a nice example to explain what Croatia is. If we talk in hospitality terms, you have huge and big hotels with 1,000 rooms. Croatia is like a boutique hotel. It’s beautiful but limited in good ingredients. It’s not for mass tourism, it’s targeted for small or individual tourist. This is what I think is the future for Croatia.

Your specialty is gastronomic cooking. Can you explain a little bit of what that means?

First of all, we usually say we need to have a passion for the job and for what we do. Without passion, it will be difficult to wake up in the morning and continue the things that you do. We try to use ingredients that we have around us and try to give the best to our guests. The most important is to provide a special gastronomic event for a better experience for your guests.

Let’s start with where’s your restaurant from because you’re from there, Šibenik, Croatia. Tell us a little bit about your hometown and why people should come to visit?

Šibenik is a special small city. It’s located in the middle of the Adriatic Sea in the middle of Croatia. It’s surrounded by two national parks. It has a beautiful area of Krka. In gastronomic point, we have mussels and oysters, these are all influence of the river of water. We have salted water or you would like to say the ocean. This is the richness for Šibenik in the gastronomic view and for the experience, it is incredible. One day you can stay in Krka on the mainland and then another day, you can go into Kornati National Park. It’s completely different. It’s like you are arriving on the moon. It’s something special and crazy. It’s full of sage.

Is it great hiking there?

Yes, these are the spots that can extend the season. It’s nice to visit our area in April and May even October and November because it’s not so crowded with people. You can get nice hospitality and it will be a great experience.

The last time I was in Croatia was in May. I have not been to Šibenik but it’s on my bucket list because it looks beautiful. The reason I asked about hiking is that I love to hike and it sounds like it’s a beautiful place especially if you have two national parks right there. That would be a great thing to do.

It’s not only hiking. It’s a lot of seawater activities or river water activities. There are many cultural things. Šibenik is a city of different fortresses, which are made to protect the city from the Ottoman Empire. It is very important to understand the influence because Šibenik was 400 years under the Venice Republic. We have a huge Italian influence on our cuisine. Skradin, which is only 10 kilometers from Šibenik, was under the Ottoman Republic.

Do you also have a Middle Eastern take on some of your food as well?

Of course. I say that we are rich because we can use all these elements. We can use Ottoman influence, Austin, Hungarian, Venice Republic and French.

Let’s talk a little bit about your food. What inspires you? What type of food is your favorite? What are you focused on?

Several years ago when I was a bit younger, I was looking for special ingredients. You travel all around the world and in the end to find that the best thing is in front of you. If you look at the picture or if you go to the harbor, you will see the mussels. This is what we didn’t use a lot because we thought the mussels are for poor people. It’s not what we want to make. It’s not a specialty. The best ingredient is when it comes fresh from the sea and arise in the restaurant. That’s the best that we can provide to our guests. The freshness of these mussels is something special and this is what you are going to remember for a long time. All our cuisine is based on this principle. We try to use as more as we can ingredients from our area so we don’t buy ingredients from far away and we don’t travel a lot.

I want to congratulate you because Pelegrini has been awarded a Michelin star every year since 2018. Am I correct?

That’s right.

That’s a fantastic achievement. What was the process of being awarded a Michelin star? How does a restaurant find out that they’ve been awarded a star?

Thank you. It was a huge help from the Croatian government because for many years, they made research, and they find out that Pelegrini for me is very important for the guests, like 30%, 35%. It’s important to make decisions where you will travel. The Croatian touristic board decided to invest more in important of gastronomic guides. They helped that the Michelin arrived in Croatia. It’s very important to put Croatia on the gastronomic map of the world. It wasn’t the main aim to receive the Michelin star. For me, it’s always important that we have happy guests. After many years of hard work, somebody recognizes that and we thank them. I always say thank you to my team because without my team, it wouldn’t be possible. They are the most important part of our Michelin star.

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Croatia: Croatia is like a boutique hotel. It’s beautiful but limited in good ingredients. It’s not for mass tourism; it’s targeted for small or individual tourists.

 

That’s a very long time in the restaurant business, isn’t it?

I agree. It’s long and there are lots of ups and downs especially because Šibenik is a tourist spot. When it’s high season, it’s high pressure and then in the winter, it’s slow. You need to keep all your team and activities all year round. This is the biggest difficulty in our case and this is why we try to invent new things to extend the season.

What are some new items on your menu for this season that you’ve launched?

We did zucchini and sea bass. This is new. We have a couple of days using more zucchini flour. When you finish, you get the melon sorbet with olive oil and panna cotta. We try to follow what is in the main ingredient that we get from the beach. We work on the new dessert. It’s based on the figs. It’s figs and ricotta cheese.

You’re the founder of something called the Chefs’ Stage. Can you tell us a little bit about what that is and the purpose of it?

We found the Chefs’ Stage for many years in our business. We detected some very difficult problems. If we wait for somebody to solve our problems, it will take even more. We decided to find what are the problems. The problem is that Croatia is not recognized in the world as a gastronomic country. It’s a small country and not so many people know about it. We think that lots of people know about us, but when you make research, you’ll find that it’s not like that. We want to bring more and more people or opinion-makers to Croatia, show what Croatia can and that they spread the stories around the world. The same thing as we do today. We figured a very important thing, which is not only in Croatia, but it’s worldwide. It’s that young people don’t want to do any more service and long hours in the kitchen.

This is what we need to start to talk about. We need to start to find new ideas on how to fix it. In the other case as well, we need to tell our clients that it’s not possible to operate all or around seven days a week. The people need to rest. It’s a huge pressure in the restaurant business and it’s always long hours. What we can do is to try to find solutions. In Croatia, we didn’t have so many trained young chefs. Our school system is not good enough to provide good service when students finish school. When they finish culinary school, they need to start from scratch in the restaurant.

This is the reason why we made a foundation called Budi Foodie which collects money from the big companies in Croatia. We had big support from Coca-Cola Croatia. We send three students to foreign universities to do the training. They are students from 16 to 26. They don’t need to have any skills and knowledge in hospitality before. They only need to be real that they want to work with hospitality. We did the training for the pastry chef, the chef and we did for the restaurant manager as well. We did a training in Italy. These are the things that we think are important to do.

What a great program you started to help restaurateurs and people who want to get into it. What are your personal goals? Are you going to open up more restaurants? Are you going to focus on the restaurant you have? What are your long-term goals?

My goal from the start was to live in Šibenik with my family and to stay happy. We are happy with one restaurant. We struggled to survive with this one restaurant and this is what makes me happy. It’s very difficult to have more restaurants at this level.

That’s very smart, especially if you want to maintain the quality. Especially with restaurant staffs and the pressures that they’re all under, focusing on one restaurant is a great idea.

It’s great to hear that you’re getting ahead of the problem, identifying it, and coming up with solutions before they become almost a pandemic within the restaurant industry. That’s a novel idea. In terms of Croatia and the food that people might expect, what is an authentic Croatian dish that people can expect to see when they go to Croatia?

I would like to say that Croatia is a small but special country. Why? If you look in a wine production term, there are not so many countries in the world that can produce from extreme hot climate to ice wine. In Croatia, you can buy the ice wine from the continental part of Croatia. You can buy extreme or red wines from Peninsula Pensions which is completely different. Is this case, we divide Croatia into five key regions. One is Slavonia. It’s a nice, special, good food, spicy food and sausages. There are lots of food production. It’s mainly pork, cow, reel and wild games. You have the main city which is Zagorje, which is a small hill and a special area. The dark and chicken production are in that area. We have Gorski Kotar and Primorje. They have big roots and when you enter inside, there are small strawberries and raspberries inside the roots. You will find lots of different types of mushrooms. It’s a perfect area for a potato. You come to Istria, it is well known for the truffles and pasta. It’s a huge influence on Italy. Istria is near the sea. Their specialty is some type of seashells. There are incredible langoustines. We come to Dalmatia, the beauty of Dalmatia is the 1000 islands. Every island is like a mini-state.

We see in different countries food and wine festivals showing up that are very popular where there are celebrity chefs there and there are a lot of cooking demonstrations. Do you participate in those? If so, which ones do you suggest? Which ones do you like more than others?

There was one special wine fair in Zagreb. When the harvest is finished, all the winemakers and restauranteurs come in one place. It’s always the last weekend of November. It’s the Esplanade Wine Festival, which is something special. It’s in a beautiful old hotel in Croatia, the Esplanade. In the last several years, every city and every region has some nice local festival.

Chefs have become somewhat of a celebrity these days, whether you’re from a small restaurant or a large chain of restaurants. People love watching them. My kids will watch the Food Network and watch chefs cook and bake things. I love how they get involved with it. I hope some of it spills into the kitchen at our house. It hasn’t yet. We wrap up our interviews with a couple of rapid-fire questions. The first question I have for you is if you could live anywhere in the world for a year, where would it be?

It will be during summer in Europe.

Any particular part of Europe?

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Somewhere close to the sea, most of the sea but definitely in Šibenik in Croatia.

Have you ever completed anything on your bucket list? Something that you wanted to do that was life-changing?

It was a couple of times, but when I was a child, there was something special. It was Buenos Aires, Argentina. When we earn the first money from the restaurant, we spent all the money for twelve days in Argentina.

My next question for you is when packing for a trip, what is something that you always pack that might surprise our readers?

It’s the wine cork opener.

That’s a good answer. It’s always needed.

We traveled from Germany to Somalia. We had a trip to Germany, to the wine region and then we stopped to buy some quick breakfast, salami, bread and we saw a nice bottle of wine. We bought one but we didn’t have what we need.

My last question for you is, what is your most memorable experience in Croatia that you would like to convey that if someone’s coming to Croatia for the first time, besides coming to your restaurant and having a great meal, what’s another great experience that you remember that you’d like to recommend?

I can’t say it’s only one.

I agree with you because Croatia is such a beautiful country and there’s so much to do in it. Every time I go, I want to come back because you can’t see it all in one trip.

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Croatia: Islands in Croatia are a special thing. Every island has different tools, culture, approach, or even different language.

 

The islands in Croatia has a special thing. Every island has different tools, culture, approach, or even different language. If you talk about islands, I’m always connected with Island Cres. It is something to see and spend time on it. It’s Cres and Komiža. Two cities on the Island, but they have a different dialect. I can see Kupari is special but Korčula is amazing. I prefer more quiet places than Peninsula Pelješac. It’s something with the culture and food. For extremely good vines and oysters is in Dubrovnik.

If you go to the Northern part, I would say the Island Pag. It’s a small Island, but they have four brands. It sounds like a special land from Island Pag. They called it the Pag Zrce. The old ladies make some blankets. You go to Krk, Kraljevica, to Istria. Istria is so peaceful and it’s one of the best truffles comes from. You come to Motovun in September, you can view the vineyard, it’s in the front if you are on the top of the hill. You can enjoy a good glass of Malvazija and you may need a nice pasta with the truffles.

Chef, thank you so much for joining us. If people want to make a reservation, where should they go? What’s your website?

They should go to www.Pelegrini.hr. From our website, they can do a reservation for the restaurant.

Thank you so much for your time. We know you’re very busy. We wish you the best of luck and congratulations. We wish you a successful 2021.

He was a lot of fun to talk to. I learned a lot about the culinary experience that you can get in Croatia. He talks about olive oils, pastas and seafood. Between him and Kai, they touched on some of the same things. It’s a Mediterranean signature dish for Croatia, but there are also so many other things. I can’t wait to get back there and try some of the unique foods that they prepare.

Everyone, we gave you a great hotel with the Kempinski Adriatic and then stopped by to chef Rudi’s restaurant, Pelegrini. I’ve got to do the underwater winery. That sounds like something that is once in a lifetime experience and all the other wineries on top of that in Croatia, which is a cool scene. I want to also cycle up the Northern coast. It’s rural, but it’s unbelievably beautiful. You could stay at the Kempinski if you did that. Something that we have down in Dubrovnik is going to that bar cave to wind-down to get to. That’s a once in a lifetime and unique experience. How about Todd?

It’s the Pasara because there are so many islands that are off the coast. I’d love to get a boat and start exploring. You probably could go on forever, but you see which islands are inhabited, which are preserved as parts of nature conservancies. I think that’d be a lot of fun spending a couple of days doing that. That does it for this episode of the show, Croatia. It adds some things to your bucket list, but we’d also like to thank some special members of our team. We have Chris Jordan, our copywriter. Guy, our content developer. Annie Fernandez, our creative director. Lauren Campbell, our amazing podcast producer. Make sure you subscribe, rate and review the show on your preferred podcast app or by going to www.Destination-Everywhere.com. We look forward to speaking with you next time.

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About Kai Behrens

DE 12 | roatiaExperienced General Manager with a demonstrated history of working in the hospitality industry. Skilled in Business Operations, Food & Beverage, Luxury Goods, MICROS, and Front Office.

Strong sales professional with a Master of Business Administration (M.B.A.) focused in Executive MBA for Hospitality and Tourism from NEOMA Business School.

About Rudolf Stefan

DE 12 | roatiaWorking in hospitality requires a specific lifestyle. I enjoy in gastronomy and fine dining. Hospitality is a great career path that encourages professional growth, allows you to travel and exchange knowledge with international colleagues, implement new techniques, discover new flavors and educate young professionals.  This is what makes me fulfilled. I live with my family in my hometown and love what I do. I am a happy man.

Never-ending curiosity is important. You have to have thirst for knowledge because this is a profession that keeps on evolving. Persistence and patience are keys to success. Happy and satisfied guests should be the chef’s goal. Today I know good things come to those who wait.

Local flavors rule our kitchen. We have to be aware of our surroundings. This is why we constantly build a network of local small producers as our main partners.

 

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Lake Como

Lake Como


 

Such is the magnificence of Lake Como that it has been the object of the rich and famous’ adoration since ancient Roman times and continues to be extremely popular today. If you’re amped about visiting quaint small towns and venerable historical sites, cycling, hiking, olive oil tasting or just enjoying the scenic lakeside view, then this destination is a must. In this episode, we are joined by Samy Ghachem, General Manager of Sereno Hotels, an award-winning group of hotels that took pains to integrate its contemporary edifice into the lake, the scenery, and the community. We also talk to Andrea Rotta and Francesco Ornaghi, owners of Larioland, the first amphibious car rental service in the whole of Europe. If you’re planning to go to Lake Como, you add Il Sereno for Northern Italian hospitality and the unique land-water experience that Larioland offers, at Lake Como.

Andy McNeill and Todd Bludworth are travel and hospitality entrepreneurs and owners of the global meetings organization, American Meetings, Inc. From sourcing meetings in Lake Como, to corporate event management around the world, their team selects corporate event venues and meeting planners for a wide array of enterprise business clients, providing ideas for convention themes and strategies for running global meetings and events. Learn more at www.mtgshealth.wpengine.com.

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Lake Como

Imagine a village with no streets, just cobblestone walkways and steps that lead you to a town of quaint shops and eateries, surrounded by terrace gardens spilling into the bluest lake you’ve ever seen. The top of travelers’ bucket list for years, Lake Como of Northern Italy offers old-world elegance in an upscale resort area sitting against the Alps. The mini-villages of Lake Como, which many visit by ferry or private boat, make this a fun and unique destination spot. The dramatic scenery of Italian architecture mixed with the Austrian hospitality make this area picturesque and perfect. Whether your mainstay or a stop while visiting the Alps of Milan, Lake Como is not to be missed. This episode, you will meet the General Manager, Samy Ghachem, of the new five-star contemporary masterpiece, Il Sereno Hotel. He’ll give us a scoop on what the celebrities do and the must-not-miss activities around the hotel. We’ll talk about the best time of the year to visit, some tips on where to buy the best local cuisine, and experiences not to be missed.

We are taking you to Northern Italy, to the beautiful region with Lake Como. It’s one of the most famous lakes in the world with lots of celebrities, wonderful things to do, and bucket list items galore. Todd, what is going to be your favorite thing to focus on now?

First, it’s important that we explain a little bit about the geography of Lake Como. This is one of those places since the Roman times, the aristocrats and the wealthy. I’ve always used Lake Como as a destination. When you think of Lake Como, think of an upside-down Y. The northern part is the bottom of the Y and then it splits it out into two branches. At the inside top of that Y is a town called Bellagio. The hotel in Vegas is named after Bellagio. The town they say has fewer people than the casino. It’s not a very big town, but it is a beautiful town.

Around the lake are many others. It’s about 53 or 56 square miles. There’s Como. There’s Lecco, which is down one of the branches. Bellagio up at the point, Tremezzo, Menaggio and Varenna. Menaggio and Varenna are close to Bellagio. Google an image of the map and you’ll see it. It also sits at the base of the Alps. The scenery is spectacular. You’ve got mountains and a lake. It’s the third biggest lake in Italy, but it is by far the deepest. It’s over 1,300 feet deep.

It’s one of the most popular. You’ll probably recognize it if you saw Ocean’s Twelve or Casino Royale from the James Bond series. It’s been in tons and tons of movies.

Don’t forget about Star Wars: Attack of the Clones. It was in there. John Legend filmed the video, All Of Me, there. It’s scenic. It’s gorgeous. It’s very difficult to get around the lake. You need destinations. You can do water taxis. There’s not a train that goes all the way around the lake. Water taxis are very expensive. You need to have a plan before you go.

People have been coming to Lake Como for a millennia. During the rise of the Roman Empire, the villa architecture that you see that so popular in Italy got its start here in this region. The individuals from Rome used to come down in summer here. Despite the sheer size of Lake Como, it only has one island that you can go to. The community and the experience, which is incredible. We’ve had a great time when we’ve gone is in these small towns and these communities that Todd mentioned. You do need to have a plan because it is a huge lake. There are many great and incredible things to do. We’re going to take you on some great bucket list with our guests we have now. It’s going to be a lot of fun. To get to Como, it’s about a twelve-hour flight directly from New York. That’s a good estimate of how long it’s going to take you to get there. Todd, how far is it from Milan?

From Milan, it’s about an hour and a half. It’s a little more than 50 miles. You could fly into Milan, eight hours from New York, two hours from London. There are options. Availability is good, but then you probably need to get a car.

We’re going to talk a little bit about the hotel that we’re going to visit now. It’s called Il Sereno, which is the newest hotel. We’re going to have the General Manager, Samy, from there. He’s going to talk about this new five-star contemporary property that won the 2019 Condé Nast Reader’s Choice Award. It’s an incredible venue. He’s got lots of great ideas about what to do. The hotel itself is a bucket list experience.

We have a very special guest joining us. We have the Managing Director of il Sereno Hotels. That is Samy Ghachem. Samy, welcome to the show. How are you?

I’m good. Thank you, Todd. I’m thrilled to be here.

You have some amazing properties. First, let’s talk about you. You’ve been in hospitality at some level for quite a long time. Give us a little bit about your history.

It’s more travel in tourism. My career started right out of university working for a French airline, Air France. I spent seventeen years there between sales and marketing. I took over and manage their Alliance Department. I did that for the better part of my career and got into hospitality years ago when I started as a General Manager for Le Sereno in St. Barths. In between the airline hospitality or the hotel job, for three years, I was also the Managing Director of FROSCH, a large travel management company in New York City. I’ve touched on various ends of it, but always staying within the industry.

You mentioned St. Barths. I know we’re in Lake Como. Tell us briefly about the St. Barths property. It underwent extensive renovations, did it not?

It did. Following Hurricane Irma, we rebuilt the entire property from the ground up. That was about a few years ago. Since then, it’s working at a new hotel. We relaunched it. That hotel has been around for several years. I came in a few years ago. It divided my time between St. Barths and Lake Como.

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Lake Como: Bellagio is the Pearl of Lake Como. It should definitely be on your bucket list.

 

Are the properties similar in any way? I know that the one in Lake Como is contemporary. How about the one in St. Barths?

The one in St. Barths is timeless. It is designed by Christian Liaiger, who is more about understated elegance, understated luxury. Both of them are similar. All rooms are facing stunning views, facing the water. It’s the same in St. Barths. All the rooms are directed towards the ocean. All rooms have floor-to-ceiling windows. The one in St. Barths is more your French, Caribbean luxury relaxed feel. The one here in Lake Como is designed by Patricia Urquiola, also equally stunning with every single room facing the water with floor-to-ceiling windows.

Let’s start talking about this amazing property you have. The first new construction on Lake Como in 100 years we heard. It won the 2019 Condé Nast Traveler Reader’s Choice Award. What is that like being awarded something like that? What is the process that you have to go through? Is it a surprise? Do they tell you? I’m interested and I’m sure our readers would love to know how you got such a fantastic accolade.

It’s an indication of the hard work that the team has done because it is a surprise. You don’t take these things for granted. It’s a lot of work, on behalf of the marketing, but also the team that makes every guest happy here. They’ve worked very hard since the opening, which was a few years ago. They also worked hard in getting the word out. It’s one thing to build this property, but another thing to put it on the map and get the exposure that’s ultimately what’s been recognized. It’s a great achievement and it’s something every year we try to accomplish or keep getting the word out about this great property.

Let’s talk a little bit about some of the bucket list experiences on the property because not only Lake Como itself is a once in a lifetime destination for anyone, but your hotel itself is a bucket list destination. Meaning you can go there and have an experience of a lifetime. Tell us a little bit about some of the things you can do on property that is unique. Let’s start with the spa right here.

You’re in the restaurant. It’s one of the arches looking out over the restaurant, overlooking the spa. It’s a great view. It’s stunning and amazing. Anybody that does come must spend time out on the water. That’s an absolute must. Whether you’re going to take one of our custom-made Riva Jetto boats that are self-drive and all you need is a driver’s license to do that, or our Vaporina which comes with a captain or a skipper, or walk into the nearby village called Torno and jump on the local ferry for a few euros and venture North or South. Don’t leave without spending time on the water because it’s from the water that the beauty of Lake Como is built along the shores of the lake. All the villages, the stunning homes, restaurants are all at the water level. What’s special about the design of the hotel as well as all of that is the backdrop. You’ve got this beautiful view of the other side of the lake from the penthouse suite. You could see these small little villages on the other side of the lake.

I want to touch on these Riva boats. You’ve got to go to their website and check them out. They’re beautiful wood boats, the two self-driving ones you mentioned. The other one that you can get the skipper for, the captain, it reminds me of a presidential boat. The inside is stunning. It’s covered if you don’t want the sun. It’s a great unique experience to be able to get into one of those and go check out the lake. Are there lots of restaurants and places you can access by boat easily from your property?

There’s no shortage of them, up and down the lake. There’s a number of them. Whether it’s with one of our boats or with a water taxi, there are great restaurants across the lake. People will often go from here up to Bellagio or down to Como for lunch or for dinner by boat. A lot of people also come to our own restaurant and arrived by boat or be dropped off by a water taxi.

Let’s talk a little bit about your restaurant because it’s Michelin rated.

We got our first and only Michelin star after several months of operating. Chef Raffaele Lenzi is our chef that did this. He has an amazing team that delivers day in and day out. We’ve got a number of great-tasting menus, 6, 7, 8-course tasting menus. We’ve got an all-day pool menu, a bistro menu. Whether you want your spaghetti Bolognese or your tasting gourmet-style menu, it’s all there. The best part is the entire hotel, it’s a relaxed atmosphere. While you’re enjoying Michelin dining, you don’t have to get all dressed up. You can come down in your jeans if you want so to speak.

I always recommend it to people, see if you can meet the chef because chefs are creative, fun people for the most part. Going to a Michelin-rated restaurant and then getting to speak to the chef if it’s possible, is always a great experience. You have a sister property on the lake itself. It’s a villa that was built in 1573 that’s been refurbished to its former glory. Tell us a little bit about that.

It’s got a great story to it. The Count of Anguissola had once killed the son or the brother of the pope at the time, and he needed to build a place to come and hide. He built the Villa Pliniana and hung out there for the next twenty years. The pope never found him. It’s in a corner elbow of the lake where he had great visibility down and up the lake. Behind him is a full mountain. The entire estate spreads across 18 acres. It’s got 2 or 3 waterfalls, a helicopter landing pad, gardens, spa, ballrooms, billiard room, etc. It’s a stunning property, which is available now for the first time in 500 years to rent as a place to lodge.

Is it something that you have to take as a whole or do you rent sleeping rooms in the villa?

You would take it as a whole. It comes with eighteen bedrooms. We’ve had guests that have used 2 or 3 bedrooms at a time, and a guest that have used all eighteen bedrooms. We’d only rent it to one guest at a time. Whether they come again with a small family, a large group, a group of friends.

How far is it from your property?

It’s about 900 meters away. It’s a three-minute boat ride, a 2 or 3-minute car ride or a walk. It’s up the lake from here.

I have a question because this property, the architecture is contemporary. How was that received on Lake Como? When people go to Italy, they have this vision of the old Italian architecture and then to go and see a brand-new property on Lake Como. Does it turn heads? Are people like, “Where did that come from?” How did you get that passed? Did you have obstacles in creating such a new space there?

First of all, our owners, the Contreras family did not want to create a faux-historic Italian structure. Instead, they decided to work with a very highly regarded and well-respected designer even here in Italy, Patricia Urquiola. What’s special about this property or this structure here is if you do get on a boat and you’ve ventured to 300 yards out into the lake and turn around, the hotel almost camouflages itself into the mountain. Because of the materials, the wood, we’ve got a vertical wall garden by Patrick Blanc. The vegetation, the wood, and the stone perfectly blend itself. You’ve got to look hard to see where the property ends and starts because it does fit so perfectly into the mountain.

The other thing is it doesn’t come and impose itself on the lake. It kowtows itself to the lake because every single room faces water, but every single room including the lobby is floor-to-ceiling windows. It comes with respecting the lake and it’s all about the lake. One of the best things to do while here in addition to spending time in the water in a boat is enjoying a cocktail, a tea or a coffee in the lobby and taking in the lake view. It’s a show in itself.

Is the lobby open air a lot of the year?

On a day like this day, it is. All the windows do open up weather permitting, great air circulation. It’s an open-air lobby when weather permits.

We talked about some bucket list items. You must have guests coming from all over the world. Lake Como, I’m hearing about it more possibly that it’s a destination for the rich and famous. It’s got this elite status that people want to go. If not, to possibly rubbed shoulders with somebody they’ve seen in a movie. The atmosphere itself is over the top. As a general manager, you have a guest and it’s a special occasion, maybe a 50th anniversary or something along those lines. Coming from the business that Andy and I come in, you get these requests sometimes. You’re like, “I don’t know if we can make that happen, but let’s see if we can do it.” Can you think of anything off the top of your head that someone’s come to you that seems a little outrageous, but you’re like, “We can make this happen for this guest?”

We do have a lot of interesting guests here almost every day. There’s no shortage of that. I remember two unique requests. One was a well-known guest whose security team had asked me to somehow play along with them in explaining that it was too dangerous to swim in the lake. They never took that into account in the three days prior to all the preparation. I sat there saying, “I can’t exactly say we’ve got shark or piranha ruled out. How do I explain that it’s too dangerous to jump off the Jetty and swim in the lake?” That was a funny request. Another interesting request was an equally VIP guest, they had come to me and asked if I could assist in getting them to close down the town of Como for a special part of their 4 or 5-day visit. The message was clear, whatever it would take. I engaged or decided to try my best and venture into it. Those were two requests that I do remember that I won’t forget.

We’ll leave it to the reader’s imagination, the names of those VIPs. I love that you didn’t say no. That’s great.

It’s never no. We’ll try everything.

Thank you for sharing your hotel with us. Samy, we’re going to move into our rapid-fire questions. You’re a world traveler. You’ve been all over. You have been to 130 countries. That’s what I read at one point or maybe more. We like to give our readers and our followers on social media tips from people like you who are world travelers and do it right. We’re going to give you these four questions and have your best answers. The first one is have you ever completed anything on your personal bucket list? If so, what was it?

My dream was always to be an expat. Having taken my first assignment abroad in St. Barths and then now living in Lake Como, half there, half here. I did okay on that.

I don’t think we mentioned you’re a son of Chicago. You’re from Chicago and New York.

Chicago but I identified more like a New Yorker. I’ve been to New York City for many years. My dream was always to work abroad. I ended up in two beautiful destinations and that was on my list.

You’re already living in two amazing places, but if you could live anywhere else in the world for a year, where would it be?

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Il Sereno may be contemporary in style, but fits so perfectly into its scenery and does not impose itself on the lake.

 

It has always been and would always be Japan. It’s always been a dream of mine to live in Japan for a year. It’s a culture that intrigues me. The food I love, the culture, the people. It’s a culture and country I know so little about that I would love to learn more about and experience it firsthand for a year. It would be Japan.

A lot of people don’t know this and for our readers’ bucket list item, Japan is a foliage rival of the Northeast United States and it’s spectacular. It’s one of the best trips I ever took. If you ever are there in the fall, you will be pleasantly surprised. When you’re packing for a trip, what is something you pack that might surprise our readers?

I seem to pack everything in addition to the usual portable batteries because I hate when my cell phone runs out. One thing that I have consistently taken for the past few years is a very strong flashlight, which has served many purposes. I’m into flashlights. There’s a brand I like that’s SureFire. You can check it out on the internet. I always buy the strongest SureFire 1,000 Lumen flashlight, which has done everything from come in handy. Security-wise, it’s been very helpful in some of the remote countries around the world. It’s probably my flashlight.

What is your most memorable experience at Lake Como since you’ve been there? That’s our final question.

It’s probably the opening day. We opened to a very high-profile wedding with a guest list of 50 guests, also all very high-profile VIP individuals. The construction of the hotel finished as the guests were coming in. It was the entire day of walking guests to rooms or guests from the room, whatever calling and saying, “Does this room come with a TV?” realizing maybe we forgot to put the TV on that wall to some of the funniest things. I have to say that the actual guests could not have been more pleasant and enjoyed or were able to laugh at some of the funniest of experiences. Opening a hotel that you finished building it and you open to a wedding was unforgettable.

My last personal question is you’re an expat living in Lake Como. You’ve been there for several years now. I’m sure you’ve eaten a lot of great Italian meals there, at least one of my favorite places I’ve been many times. What is your go-to favorite must-have Italian meal in Lake Como that you can tell our readers about?

I love the food here. There are times I’ve had my fair share of carbs. Sometimes I’m pizza and pasta out. Here in Como, rather than any particular cuisine or restaurant, I have my go-to place for a fabulous tagliolini with fungi mushroom and truffle, or I go to a favorite restaurant where the pizza crust is black from squid ink. I’ve even found an Umbrian restaurant that has a hamburger that I would put in the top three hamburgers I’ve had in my life, which I would not have expected. There are some great dining options throughout the lake. I’d probably say my favorite dish of 2020 is the pistachio spaghetti right here at Il Sereno. It’s a league of its own.

Samy, I have a question more about the activities outside of the property and the actual water activities. What’s something that you could recommend that you being a local now, that you’re not going to find it in a brochure? What is someplace you could say you’ve got to do this?

Aside from driving to the Loro Piana factory store in 2020, I’ve had a little more time to explore. It’s hiking. You can go to the top of these mountains. You don’t think to because you’re always focused on what’s at the water level and seeing it from the water. Some of the hikes I’ve done in the past few weeks reach the tops of these mountain tops and seeing a stunning lake from such high elevation is quite an experience.

Does your concierge have trail maps of some of those trails where if someone wants to go hiking, they can go check it out?

There are plenty of trail maps and hiking escorts. There are some smartphone apps that also identify these hikes all over. I would tell any guests to pack a pair of hiking shoes and put that on your list when visiting the lake.

Samy, I know you’re a busy guy. You’re managing two hotels. Thank you for being our guest. We greatly appreciate it. I know our followers and our subscribers will love learning about your hotel. If you want to learn more, go to IlSereno.com or on Instagram, @IlSereno and find out about this contemporary property at Lake Como. It is a bucket-list must especially if you’re doing a big celebrity wedding. Samy, thank you for your time. We greatly appreciate it. Hopefully, we’ll see you soon.

Andy, Todd, thank you both. It’s been great talking. I look forward to welcoming you guys in the lake someday.

We’re looking forward to it. Thank you, Samy.

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I want to thank, Samy. He is one of those people that has a passion for travel. I’d love to hearing what they said about the hotel becoming a part of the scenery instead of becoming a modern piece of architecture sitting at the foot of the hills. The blending thing is amazing. If you’re ever in Lake Como, please look for Samy and go check out the property. It sounds gorgeous.

We’re going to move into our bucket list items for Lake Como. We’ve got some great ideas for you and a nice surprise. One more interview for you about one of the bucket list items. Here we go.

We’ve got the lake. We’ve got beautiful scenery, hiking and mountain biking. There are private and public gardens in many of the villas around the lake. We’re going to talk about one and that’s Villa del Balbianello. It’s a garden and a villa, but you can’t stay there. It’s not a rentable property. It is one of the most well-known villas on Lake Como. This is a spot that was the set for Star Wars and James Bond film.

It’s where Queen Amidala and Anakin got married.

They were running in that field and it was beautiful. A lot of people think that’s all CGI. That is Lake Como. It’s a gorgeous spot for weddings and events.

It’s a bucket list day trip. You’ve got to go if you go to Lake Como. Go there for sure.

They have a music festival every year in mid-July. We saw a video and a picture, a live image of what Lake Como looks like. It was stunning and the weather was perfect. July is probably spot on with that. It’s a music festival and you’ll hear a lot of classical music. It’s gorgeous. It is the LacMus Music Festival. It’s international and there are lots of participation. You’ll want to add that to your list if you’re there in July. Google it and get tickets early.

Our next bucket list item is to go to the pearl of Lake Como, which is the town of Bellagio. Don’t get it mixed up with the one in Vegas. This one is quaint, beautiful and very crowded in the summertime. If you go on the off-season, it’s even better. It has great villa architecture. It has beautiful gardens. The villa is one that you want to see. It’s an absolute great place for an incentive trip. We highly recommend it.

When you think of Italy, you think of a couple of different things. In terms of food, you think of pasta. There’s olive oil. Olive oil is one of the gifts that Italy gives to the world. There’s a very famous olive oil, it’s the Vanini Brothers. You can go to their oil mill and it dates back to the 1850s. You can do tastings and purchase olive oil. We recommend that you do that if you do like olive oils. If you cook, salads, you can use it in so many things. It’s good for you too, but the taste is amazing. Be sure to do that. Andy, what’s next?

We got the Como Cathedral in Como. It was built in 1836 and has a lot of world-renowned art in it. If you’re an art enthusiast, you definitely want to go. It has a beautiful history of the town as well as the gorgeous architecture of an Italian cathedral. It is the Como Cathedral in the City of Como. That is on my bucket list. I want to go see that.

This next item, I’ve done it at a couple of different places. It’s so much fun, but there are a lot of family-owned restaurants around the lake. A lot of them offer culinary experiences. You can go and take a class with one of the chefs and learn how to make some great things. I’m thinking pasta, but there’s so much more that you can learn. I recommend doing a little bit of research and finding a place where you can take one of these intimate cooking classes, maybe with you or a small group.

It’s a great thing to do on a misty or rainy day. Talk to your concierge, but it’s a thing that can be a memorable experience for your group when you take them there. The next one to explore Castello di Vezio. It’s a medieval fortress nestled within an olive grove in the town of Varenna. This what blew me away, which is a stunning place to go. It’s a place that you get to meander and enjoy the history as well as a beautiful setting in this olive grove. That is again in the city of Varenna. Put that on your list. There are all these little towns all around Lake Como. You can hop over the course of the day to a few to see all these historical sites.

We have two gentlemen that are going to be joining us. They’ve started a company on Lake Como a few years ago. It’s a bucket list item and there is only one on the entire lake. You’re going to want to know what they want to say. If you ever visit Lake Como, you have to contact them and make it happen.

We have a great surprise for you. Talking about a bucket list item, can you imagine being on Lake Como and doing the amphibious car, driving a car into the water and then experiencing Lake Como from an automobile in the water? That’s what we’re going to talk about with the Founders of Larioland, Francesco and Andrea. Thanks for joining us.

Thank you. It’s a pleasure.

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Lake Como: There is no shortage of VIPs and interesting guests in Il Sereno at any given day.

 

We’re all about unique bucket list experiences for our subscribers and our followers. You guys certainly have one. Why don’t you tell us a little bit about the history of your company and exactly what an amphibious car is and what the experience can be?

I can start and Francesco can also continue the story. Everything started at the end of 2018 with this idea to make an amphibious car. Why this? It’s because we know we live in an amazing area. Como Lake is nice. It’s beautiful. Amphibious is a fantastic and unique way to see this lake. We wanted to start this company and to show to all the world this amazing area in a unique way.

What type of car is it?

The car is an Amphicar. It’s a German car made in the older ‘60s and originally was made for US business. The Amphicar is the first and only ever car built-in factory as an amphibious. The car is amphibious. It’s able to ride the streets and also dive into the water.

You didn’t retrofit the car. The car was designed to be an amphibious vehicle?

It is. The car is amphibious with rear wheels driving and also with true propellers steering the rear to move in the water.

Can a person drive the car themselves, someone that rents the car from you guys?

It’s possible. The nice experience is that you try the machine and you try this machine on your own. It means you can drive the car. You can learn how to drive it and you test it. That’s the most amazing part. People get scared. They are at the steering wheel going into the water. This is the most amazing part of the tour.

Is it easy to drive once you get it in the water? Is it like driving a car?

It is easier to drive it in the water than on the road. It’s simple. You only have to steer and push the throttle. It’s fun. Another part of the splash-in is it’s unique. There are a lot of people who are watching the view and taking photos. You can almost feel like a VIP and also like James Bond when he drives out of the water.

I googled it and a lot of pictures came up with your vehicle, which was great. It must be a popular site on the lake. How many people can go in the car at one time?

The car can fit four people maximum. An instructor of Larioland is always on board to teach how to drive, but also to check that everything is going well because still you are in the deepest lake of Europe. It’s better to know what people are doing. It’s up to three people at the same time.

Anybody that might be a little scared, what happens if a boat goes fast by you? Does anything happen? Does it go like this and go over the wave?

It just moves on the waves. Nothing worse can happen.

It’s doesn’t go fast, so you are safe.

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Are there any other amphibious vehicles like in the States we have Duck Tours, which are the boats that go in. Are you the only amphibious vehicle on the lake?

Yes, we are. We are also the first in Europe that does that. In Europe, there are amphibious buses that you cannot take for a city site, but with Larioland, you can drive it. It’s an important difference. You can experience something for the few people because it’s small groups, as told by Andrea only a few people can come in. It’s personal also.

How fast does it go?

It drives at 70 miles per hour on the street and 7 miles per hour in the water. This is why the name of the car is Amphicar 770.

It’s been very popular. A lot of people are doing it.

We are because when we started this activity, all the people were taking videos and so on. We went to all the newspapers and so everybody knows us now at the lake.

What is the most memorable thing? Is it the driving in? Is that the most memorable part of it or what do people enjoy about the experience?

They can enjoy this machine. The transition from land to water is the most iconic part of the tour and the experience. When you are in the water, you are a boat. When you are on the road, you are a car. At that moment, you are both. It’s fun.

Children are allowed as passengers, correct?

Yes.

Do you have other plans or do you have any plans to expand and add to your vehicle fleet? Whether it be 2 or 3 in the future or are you going to stay with one right now?

The plan is to stay with the one because of the virus. Unfortunately, we’ve been affected by it just like the world. We have this issue in the future, why not? Why don’t we extend to 2 or 3 vehicles or to another lake? We also have in mind to make an electric amphibious car, to make it our project because we also mechanical engineers. We like to modify stuff and create something new, but this requires money. Now it’s a bit difficult, so we’ll see in the future.

It’s a fantastic bucket list thing for things to do when they go to Lake Como. Where should our guests or our followers go to on the internet to find your car and how they can rent it?

You can find us on Instagram. You can look for @Larioland and on Facebook too. You can also surf our website, Larioland.it.

As locals, as people who are from Lake Como and you guys have a social life, where do you like to go? Do you have a favorite restaurant somewhere on the lake that you like to go and hang out and have some good food and drinks?

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Lake Como: Larioland is the first ever amphibious car rental service in the whole of Europe – a unique way to experience of the beauty of Lake Como from both land and water.

 

There are many amazing restaurants on the lake. We also have our own fish around the lake. It’s quite amazing. We have a partner restaurant also that is for our longer tours that is called Sottovento in Lierna.

That restaurant you mentioned is that in the town of Como or is that in one of the other surrounding areas?

The restaurant is in a town called Lierna. It’s on the Lecco side because Como Lake is divided into parts. There are two branches. The right branch is the area of Lecco where both myself and Francesco are from. It’s even more natural than the Como area. Como is more touristic and Larioland is a nice experience because you can test and you can see both of these areas that are quite different, even if we are both on the same lake.

When you’re not on the lake, what do you guys enjoy doing? I heard hiking is quite big around the lake.

We do a lot of hikes. Andrea and I also ride a mountain bike. We enjoy to go downhill from our mountains. The greatest mountain is Monte Barro because it’s a natural area and a natural park. From the top of Monte Barro, even if it is not so high, you can see a lot of land around it, a lot of lakes. You can see Resegone, Grigna, Grignetta, all the mountains that are famous. You can hike them. You can enjoy it because from the top you can see sometimes even Como and Milan.

If you’re not traveling on a bike, are there places that you can rent a mountain bike with access to the trails?

There are a lot of shops in Lecco and also in towns around Lecco and also on the Como side, there are a lot of shops where you can rent a bike and also eBike to go exploring.

I hadn’t heard about mountain biking there, Todd. That’s a fantastic thing to do.

It’s starting to sound a little more like the Northeast US up in Vermont, New Hampshire and Maine. A lot of mountains, hiking and mountain biking. Another question, you guys have done a lot. I read that, Andrea, you’ve traveled probably a little bit more than Francesco. Do you guys have a bucket list adventure that you personally want to go on, each of you, something that you haven’t done yet that you’re looking forward to make it happen?

I traveled to a lot of places in the world, but I miss many areas. For example, South America is a good area where I would like to go because of mountain biking. There are amazing mountains. I prefer warmer areas than cold areas.

Francesco, what about you?

I like the cold too. I also like hotter area too, but I also like colder. I love Africa. I’ve been in Kenya. I want to go back. I’ve also never been to Canada. I could go there if I can choose.

It sounds like you guys are extreme travelers, which you guys go more on the adventure side if that sounds right. Biking, hiking, and more of the outdoor types.

We love extreme travels, extreme sports. We play also Alpine ski, powder ski, snowboard and kite surf here on Como Lake as well. We used to play motocross in the past. We love adventure.

This side also pushes us to start as an entrepreneur with Larioland. Our motto is to explore the unseen. You also have to be prepared to explore and adventure. We want our customers to feel and enjoy Como Lake as we do.

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We always be sure to remind our readers that when they do travel, they are guests in your home. We hope they respect the lake and the land around it when they do visit. Thank you for joining us. We wish you all the best of luck. We can’t wait to get out there and visit Larioland and take a ride on your amphibious vehicle.

Thanks for your time. Readers, if you’re interested in running an amphibious vehicle as a bucket list item, go to Larioland.it or Instagram @Larioland. Thanks for your time. Have a great day.

Thank you.

Thank you very much.

What a great idea, what two great guys. If you get to Lake Como, what a bucket list experience to try is this amphibious car. You’ve got to do it. They seemed two people that could show you around the city as well. They’ll give you some great mountain biking and hiking examples as well.

That was Andrea and Francesco, their website is Larioland.it. Reach out to them. As Andy said, if the car is booked, say, “Where’s a good mountain biking trail or give me a place to go get a bike rental?” I’m sure these guys know a lot about the area. It’s always best to get it from the locals. Reach out to them. I’m going to add them to my Facebook friends.

My bucket list, everything that we heard is Villa Pliniana. That would be a once in a lifetime experience to rent that out with a group of friends or go for the day. It would be incredible. That is the private villa that’s owned by Il Sereno. I highly recommend that.

That’s one of mine. I do have a birthday coming up that is special. I’ve got eighteen rooms to fill. I’m thinking of two guests per room, maybe a couple of pull-outs. I can do 40 people on my birthday. I don’t need a car because I could take a helicopter ride near the airport. That’s very convenient for me. I love that suite that Samy was in at the Il Sereno. The views alone are gorgeous. I’d love to go out into the town. I’d love to find a great authentic Italian restaurant and learn to make pasta. I’ve always said I’ve never made pasta. I’ve always bought it. It probably is insulting to many people in Italy. I love to learn how to make different types of pasta, run it through the pasta maker and then hang it out, learn to prepare a great meal.

We covered exploring Como, Bellagio and Varrena with activities. Each one of those small towns is great.

I want to mention something also. You’ll see a lot of boats but there are a few spots for swimming on Lake Como. It’s not something that you’re going to see people. In the areas around the villages, you’re not going to see a lot of people swimming. There are designated swimming spots, just be aware of that. We’re the guests, respect the rules. It’s heavy nature in this area. It’s gorgeous just looking at the scenery and the water. The locals there might appreciate everybody keeping it as clean as possible.

Another one that I would want to try is olive oil tasting in the town of Lenno. We talked a little bit about that experience. That could be a great day trip from any of these small towns. We highly recommend that.

If you take one of those ships out, that’s 1,300-feet deep, they do have sightseeing tours. There is an infrastructure of boats to go from town to town. If you can afford cell phones, I would watch out with the selfies taking them from the boat. If it goes over, you’re never going to see that thing again.

Speaking of boats, Il Sereno has got those Riva wood custom-crafted boats. That’s something you need to do. You can either do a self-driving one or they have a captain that will take you around so you can enjoy some drinks along the way. That’s on my bucket list. I’d want to do that.

Of the two, I like being by myself. I know you can learn to drive the amphibious car. You can drive the boats, but to see the other boat that they have, it is so classic and cool. If you don’t mind the captain being with you at a great time, this thing is cool. You’ve got to check it out.

Check it out on the Il Sereno website. It’s one of those once in a lifetime experience.

They’re made in Italy. They’re handcrafted wood. It’s gorgeous.

We like to take a shout-out to the Lake Como Tourism for helping us put together this episode. If you’re headed to the area, make sure you check out LakeComoTourism.it. They will bring you some great ideas. They’ve brought us some great ideas. Thank you, guys. We greatly appreciate it.

Thanks, Samy, Andrea and Francesco.

We had a lot of fun showing you Lake Como. We’ll see you in the next episode.

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About Samy Ghachem

Samy Ghachem is the Managing Director for Sereno Hotels. Origninally from Chicago, Samy moved out east for boarding school and university. He lived in NYC for 15 plus years until until he moved to St. Barths and Lake Como. With over 25 years of work experience in the luxury travel industry, Samy has worked for Air France for 16 years,and then managed a large Travel Management company for 3 years. He is a major travel addict having visited over 130 countries.

About Larioland

Explore Como Lake from a unique point of view – land and water.

Drive an amphibious vehicle to discover the territory of Lecco, a fantastic area with mountains and lake.

You have now the opportunity to feel new emotions thanks to Amphicar 770, a rare car born in Germany during ’60s.

The Company was born from the love of Andrea Rotta and Francesco Ornaghi for the Lario area.

Larioland is an innovative company, the first in Europe to rent amphibious cars; this came from the wish to promote a wild and relaxing environment, combined with a strong passion for cars.

 

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